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That's it. I give up. (Original Post) rrneck Mar 2013 OP
I agree with your statistic but only if we are... Fridays Child Mar 2013 #1
"The human race is surely headed toward an inevitable decline into chaos and destruction." ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #2
Yeah, rrneck Mar 2013 #3
oh god Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #4
As bad as that is TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #5
That's great! RiffRandell Mar 2013 #6
Even at my advanced age. sendero Mar 2013 #7
I enjoy a good vampire story. rrneck Mar 2013 #14
I like a good vampire story too OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #19
My favorite class in the seventh grade was literature. rrneck Mar 2013 #20
That does sound like an awesome teacher! OriginalGeek Mar 2013 #21
This is not a surprise union_maid Mar 2013 #8
Did you enjoy reading Patricia Cornwell? In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #10
For most of the books I did union_maid Mar 2013 #11
LOL! I found her to be entertaining back in 2004. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #12
There was a time Loryn Mar 2013 #16
Yes! And still she found time union_maid Mar 2013 #22
That's true. rrneck Mar 2013 #15
It isn't her fault! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #9
I haven't read her union_maid Mar 2013 #13
How am I supposed to piss and moan if you keep making sense? nt rrneck Mar 2013 #17
Who is Stephenie Meyer? petronius Mar 2013 #18

Fridays Child

(23,998 posts)
1. I agree with your statistic but only if we are...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:18 AM
Mar 2013

...using a very loose interpretation of "written." The term "poorly written" is much more accurate.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
2. "The human race is surely headed toward an inevitable decline into chaos and destruction."
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:21 AM
Mar 2013

Wait, I thought we were always in a state of chaos and destruction.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
3. Yeah,
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:25 AM
Mar 2013

but at least up till now we made it look cool. Now we're going to be devoured by our own stupidity and shat out of the colon of idiocy for being too fucked up to to give the planet indigestion.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
7. Even at my advanced age.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 07:43 AM
Mar 2013

... I "get" most cultural trends. I still listen to out-there electronica and still find the occassional new band my kids are listening to to be tasty (to be fair they were raised well and have really good taste .

But I have never, ever ever understood the fascination with vampires. Never. And at this point I suspect it is too late for me. Or maybe rather than being some deep dark allegorical mystery it's just a dumb one-inch-thought fantasy.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
14. I enjoy a good vampire story.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:18 AM
Mar 2013

Just like I enjoy a good baseball story or a good war story. But the whole Twilight thing is just beyond a creature of teen marketing and so into the worst kind of wish fulfillment without a shred of anything that might be confused with art it's ridiculous.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
19. I like a good vampire story too
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:56 AM
Mar 2013

but it started with Bram Stoker in my early teens. That's still the standard by which I measure. Anne Rice was great. Poppy Z. Brite was too (what ever happened to her though?). I even enjoy the bubblegumminess of Charlaine Harris' Sookie Stackhouse. But I saw the first Twilight movie with my wife and daughter and will politely bow out of going to any more of those. Meaning I will fake a heart attack if I have to. Or induce one if that doesn't work.


If you want a really excellent vamp movie, check out Shadow Of The Vampire. John Malkovich and Willem Dafoe. Completely great.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
20. My favorite class in the seventh grade was literature.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mar 2013

The teacher didn't assign us anything to read and demand a "book report". He read to us. We got Tolkein, the story of the Titanic, and Bram Stoker. He was the bestest teacher ever.

I read all of the Anne Rice books. They were very good except before it was over it seemed like she was struggling to find something for her vampires to do.

I'll get the movie. Thanks for the rec.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
21. That does sound like an awesome teacher!
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:15 PM
Mar 2013

The best thing I can say about my HS lit teacher was that he ignored us and let us just read whatever we wanted. And didn't check on what it was. (I went to fundamentalist baptist run high school). In 9th and 10th grade I got through a LOT of Robert E. Howard and Poe and Lovecraft. And Dickens. I loved A Tale of Two Cities.

I don't remember a single assignment he ever gave us - he was the husband of one of the daughters of the founder of the church and school so I guess he felt he was owed a paycheck for making sure we didn't wander off - but at least we could read and I love to read so that worked out for me.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
8. This is not a surprise
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 07:51 AM
Mar 2013

Thirty years ago our family ran a used record and book store. The Romance section was VERY popular, and the used book store clientele skews less that way than new book business. Back then it was Danielle Steele who could not be stopped. OTOH, who am I to look down my nose? My go-to for a relaxing read is a murder mystery and that's been the case for the last 50 years or so. So, if someone wants to read about sparkly vampires while I'm reading about bodies in the library, go for it, I guess. As was said up thread, at least they're reading. Not everyone does, and not always because they can't. I've known plenty of people who'd rather watch Wheel of Fortune than read ANYTHING.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
10. Did you enjoy reading Patricia Cornwell?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 08:05 AM
Mar 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Scarpetta
Kay Scarpetta is a fictional character and protagonist in a series of crime novels written by Patricia Cornwell (born 1956).

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
11. For most of the books I did
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 08:13 AM
Mar 2013

After a while Scarpetta, et al started to get on my nerves. None of the characters seemed to have any sense of humor at all. To be fair, being stalked by all those madmen might have been hell on their nerves. Plus, too much explicit cooking in the middle of these very dark mysteries.

Loryn

(945 posts)
16. There was a time
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:22 AM
Mar 2013

I wouldn't miss a Scarpetta book. After a while though, she was a Doctor, Lawyer, Scuba diver, Chef, and on and on.
I expected her to become an astronaut, and post the first autopsy at zero gravity.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
22. Yes! And still she found time
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:00 PM
Mar 2013

to be emotionally tortured and to emotionally torture those around her. She could do it all! Like I said, got on the nerves.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
15. That's true.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:20 AM
Mar 2013

In my small hometown there was a Hallmark Card/Book store that did huge business in Harlequin romances and they would periodically have a "$1 a pound sale" where there would be a big cart of discounted books and a scale. I could always find some good history there for a couple of bucks.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
13. I haven't read her
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:17 AM
Mar 2013

but I've read almost all the Charlaine Harris books, vampire and non-vampire, so my reading is not any more elevated. Actually, I gave up modern lit some years ago and a lot of important non-fiction gets a pass, too. To tell the truth, at this point in life, almost my whole purpose in choosing reading material is to keep those endorphins working. My current absolute favorite books are the Chet the Dog mysteries by Spencer Quinn (aka Peter Abrahams).

petronius

(26,611 posts)
18. Who is Stephenie Meyer?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:56 AM
Mar 2013

Note: this is just the obligatory post to demonstrate intellectual superiority and detachment from banal pop-culture dreck. Instead of just googling the name - like a normal person would - I decided to type all this out in the vain (heh heh: double entendre! Get it?) hope that my pretensions would be validated. And now that I have googled in another tab, I see that she writes that Twilight stuff, which I've heard of but don't read (because I'm smart that way).

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