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charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:19 AM May 2013

Does anyone still call their friends by their last name?

Or was that just a 90s thing? Or just an elementary/high school thing?

I saw Jurassic Park 3D, which originally came out in 1993, again last night and noticed that everyone calls each other by their last name and rarely by their first.

Now, at least with my group of friends, we only call each other by our first names. Even at work, the only people that get mentioned by their last name are the two guys with the same first name.

Growing up in the 90s, it was all last names. "Where's Davis?" "Hey, Smith, get over here..." etc.

So have we gotten over calling people by their last names? Or is that still done amongst groups of friends?

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Does anyone still call their friends by their last name? (Original Post) charlie and algernon May 2013 OP
I call my friends by their first names all the time. And I did back in the 90's, too. Aristus May 2013 #1
not saying anyone had a problem with calling them by their first names charlie and algernon May 2013 #2
I got into an argument with a chief once sarge43 May 2013 #6
Odd, I thought that was more of an Asian thing Xyzse May 2013 #3
A 90's thing? RevStPatrick May 2013 #4
We did that in the '70s as well Art_from_Ark May 2013 #31
Only a few. geardaddy May 2013 #5
The onliest person to ever refer to me by my first, middle AND last names was (occasionally)... MiddleFingerMom May 2013 #7
I can tell you it goes back way before the 90's; but my friends and me never did. Populist_Prole May 2013 #8
Not friends, but co-workers. femmocrat May 2013 #9
Everyone calls me a variation of my last name bigwillq May 2013 #10
No one has ever been able to pronounce my last name graywarrior May 2013 #11
I got that too, as a kid. And it's only 6 letters! nomorenomore08 May 2013 #15
Ha! graywarrior May 2013 #19
So I assume you're some variety of Eastern European... nomorenomore08 May 2013 #20
Polish graywarrior May 2013 #21
Well I assume my name is "Americanized" - i.e. they chopped off the last several letters. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #23
I always know I'm next in the doctor's office graywarrior May 2013 #24
Gurzskyvitch? Is that you? trof May 2013 #25
NO! graywarrior May 2013 #26
I never called people by their last names olddots May 2013 #12
Situationally, some friends by last name, others always the first Spike89 May 2013 #13
Most people use both of mine... Callmecrazy May 2013 #14
Yo, Algernon! 'Sup? KamaAina May 2013 #16
Our group WAY back in high school called each other by our dad's 1st name or nickname benld74 May 2013 #17
Almost everyone always call me by my last name warrior1 May 2013 #18
That is odd truegrit44 May 2013 #35
My old friends from the military Recursion May 2013 #22
Only when there is more than one Jeff R May 2013 #27
At a law firm I worked at HeiressofBickworth May 2013 #28
Interesting. I always thought it was a working class thing and especially male. Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #29
At school we did. Turbineguy May 2013 #30
I have a friend in Taiwan AsahinaKimi May 2013 #32
Is this post just for people that still have friends, or can anybody play ashling May 2013 #33
Stifler by his "American Pie" buddies. n/t RiffRandell May 2013 #34
I have been calling my group of close friends by their last names since the 70s dr.strangelove May 2013 #36

Aristus

(66,468 posts)
1. I call my friends by their first names all the time. And I did back in the 90's, too.
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:29 AM
May 2013

Even when I was in the Army. I read somewhere that in the military, referring to a friend or comrade by his first name reveals an "uncommon intimacy" - I think that was the term the author used. I think that is wrong-headed. I called my friend Dennis "Dennis", and I called my friend Eddie "Eddie". Not sure why someone would have a problem with that.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
2. not saying anyone had a problem with calling them by their first names
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:34 AM
May 2013

calling each other by our last names was just what we did. I don't know, maybe it was just a grade school thing.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
6. I got into an argument with a chief once
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:44 AM
May 2013

He was contending he was being a good guy because he addressed his subordinates by their first names. I countered that on duty and/or in uniform they were due the respect to the rank they had earned. Off duty among friends, way different situation.

Unless we're joking around, can't imagine not calling friends by their first names.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
3. Odd, I thought that was more of an Asian thing
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:00 AM
May 2013

I didn't know that was a trend in the US during the 90s.

Going off like, Kim-nim, Watanabe-san, Lee-qiánbeì

I thought that using last names in an Occidental culture was more for group speak. Like, when in a class or something, where it is usually a teacher or an elder calling someone over.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
4. A 90's thing?
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:30 AM
May 2013

We totally did that in the 70's too.
And now that you mention it, I haven't done that in years!

I do, however, notice that people will call friends by their full names, sort of Russian style.
For example, the other night I said to a friend "Hey John Benjamin Smith, wanna go get a drink?"
That seems to happen a lot...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
31. We did that in the '70s as well
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:38 PM
May 2013

although it was mainly "boy" thing. Call another guy "Smith", it's cool. Call him "John" in front of other boys, not cool (unless one used his full name to distinguish him from another Smith). If girls were called only by their last name by boys, it was a sign of disrespect (unfortunately, I discovered this when it was too late).

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
7. The onliest person to ever refer to me by my first, middle AND last names was (occasionally)...
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:46 AM
May 2013

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... MiddleFingerMomMom... and then I knew the shit was about to hit the fan.
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Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
8. I can tell you it goes back way before the 90's; but my friends and me never did.
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

In the 70's you would hear acquaintances often referred to by last names, but among friends: Never. Too brusque and unfriendly. In fact when you heard acquaintances or friends of a friend referred to by last name it was usually in a derogatory or mocking way.

At work it's considered rude and officious and it's mostly first names when one addresses one other; That, or their first and last names. A few ex-military native southerners in supervisory positions are the only ones that I hear call or refer to others by only their last names and it comes across as high handed and officious, especially since we've known each other for 20+ years. I get them feeling a little sheepish when I politely but firmly remind them I have a first name.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
20. So I assume you're some variety of Eastern European...
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:23 PM
May 2013

I'm mostly Scottish, but a quarter Lithuanian, and that quarter of me is how I got my weird last name. I could've been a Calhoun or a MacFarlane, but nooo...

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
21. Polish
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:27 PM
May 2013

Apparently, my last name indicates royalty....hahahahahahahahaha! My mother's father changed his Italian name, so her last name means nothing.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
23. Well I assume my name is "Americanized" - i.e. they chopped off the last several letters.
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:43 PM
May 2013

Which is fine with me, since people have had enough trouble pronouncing the damn thing, as is!

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
13. Situationally, some friends by last name, others always the first
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:20 PM
May 2013

I have a couple relatively large groups of male friends (a poker group and a softball team) that have been together for a few decades. A couple of guys often use last names, but rarely directly. Before "Joe Smith" shows up, the guys might say "Where's Smith?" when he arrives the same guys may say "Hey Joe, glad you made it".

In fact, when talking about someone, the last name is the most common. A couple guys have "nicknames" based on their last name (Brownie for a guy with the last name Brown, the Flaggster for Flagg) They are the exception--guys will address them directly by the nickname.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
14. Most people use both of mine...
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:00 PM
May 2013

and I'm cool with it. With a common first name (Michael) I am often called by a cool and catchy and tough sounding last name (Rocco). I walk in and hear Rock-OOOOOO! No mistaking that. And the name suits me.

benld74

(9,911 posts)
17. Our group WAY back in high school called each other by our dad's 1st name or nickname
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:53 PM
May 2013

not really sure how that got started. But I would bet if some of us got together long enough again, it would begin once more,,,,

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
18. Almost everyone always call me by my last name
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

and I'm a woman. I never got that. I never did it to anyone else so I'm at a loss why it happened so often to me.

Jeff R

(322 posts)
27. Only when there is more than one
Thu May 9, 2013, 07:25 PM
May 2013

with the same first name.
I grew up in a time when last names got people in trouble.
Old habits die hard. Still use first names and always have.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
28. At a law firm I worked at
Thu May 9, 2013, 07:44 PM
May 2013

one of the partners had the same first name as mine so everyone called me by my last name (a very short word with only 4 letters).

I have a friend who calls me by my last name -- she has three other friends with my same first name so it makes sense. She also refers to herself by her last name, so I do the same.

I never thought about it as being a cultural differentiation -- it's just what worked in these two instances.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
29. Interesting. I always thought it was a working class thing and especially male.
Thu May 9, 2013, 07:56 PM
May 2013

If you watch the original Honeymooners episodes ( 1955-ish) Ralph NEVER calls Ed Norton "Ed"; *never*. He exclusively calls him "Norton." I always thought of this as a sort of put down. That it was Ralph's way of asserting dominance in the relationship ... even though Ed is by far his best friend in the world.

Similarly... lowly privates in the army are... or used to be... addressed by their drill instructor by last names only... minus of course the honorific or rank. In other words never Private Jones, Private Smith.... always "Jones", "Smith". The idea was to promote intimidation and establish dominance and hierarchy.

For this reason I never called my friends by their last names, except tongue in cheek. Now, in the working world there's a different protocol that prevails. One calls a close coworker ( a peer) by their first name.; last name w. honorific if not so close. Now when talking about someone at the workplace ... TO someone else at the workplace ... it is /was quite common to refer to the absent person by the last name only. This did not necessarily imply any dislike or disrespect.

In fact... in context it could signify the opposite. If you were told to send something up to , say, "Liebowitz", that meant Liebowitz , male or female, was known by all, did not have to be further identified and was a *fixture*. In other words, had gravitas.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
32. I have a friend in Taiwan
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:43 AM
May 2013

Her first name is ChunYing. Her last name is Lin. We call her "Limi" as a cute nick name, but originally she wanted us to call her Lin. So we still do. She calls me Kimi.. though I have had people call me "Asa" or "Asahina" but I always tell them to call me Kimi or Kimiko. Its their choice to add "san" or "chan" or I may suggest it, as in "kimi chan" or "Kimiko san".

We (my friends) and I love Lin.. so were happy she is happy with "limi".. The other thing is, one of my friends has the name Sandy. Lin calls her "Sany". We always wondered who stole the "d"..Lin doesn't seem to know; "Maybe its under Sany's bed?"

ashling

(25,771 posts)
33. Is this post just for people that still have friends, or can anybody play
Fri May 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
May 2013

I don't know what happened to mine ... I called them by their last names and, well ...

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
36. I have been calling my group of close friends by their last names since the 70s
Fri May 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
May 2013

But at work I call everyone by their first name except the two people with the same first name. We refer to both of them by their last names.

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