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Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:13 AM May 2013

I bought an electric guitar. I can't play a note.

I bought an electric guitar. On impulse. At Costco. I can't play. What on earth possessed me?

I suppose I could try to learn how to play the damn thing, but my track record in this area is not stellar. My musical education began and ended in primary school, with my biggest success being a tinny performance of Frère Jacques on the xylophone on parents' night, which was met with polite, if muted, applause. At least I think I struck the majority of the notes nearly correctly that night. A nasal-sounding rendition of Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star failed to achieve a passing grade later that year and my version of Für Elise is still spoken of in hushed tones when elderly retired educators foregather to swap stories over a pint.

I tried choir, but was thrown out when the teacher figured out where the noise was coming from. I wasn't interested enough to learn the lyrics of songs either. Well, of clean ones at least.

My parents attempted to engage a music teacher privately, but we didn't really hit it off. The man simply had an odd prejudice against lazy, untalented smartarses, and he gave up quickly trying to teach me the piano. He thought that rhythm might be more my thing and suggested the drums, possibly as a form of revenge against my parents for inflicting me on him. That ended when my first drum solo was likened to the sound of a painful bowel movement. As an aside, fuck you, Mr. Holzheimer. Shame on you for humiliating a 10 year-old to get a cheap laugh out of the other kids. Bastard.

I've got to face it, I'm never going to learn how to play and this impulse purchase is just a vainglorious attempt at recapturing lost youthful dreams. I've become a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard whose dreams are now behind him. Buying this guitar confirms it.


2 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, you really are a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard.
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Boy, are you one sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard.
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I don't often agree with you, Ron, but yes, you really are a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard. There's no hope.
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Stop moaning, you sad, pathetic middle-aged bastard. Others have it worse and you're lucky to even be alive, you creep.
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Go away, you sad, pathetic middle-aged bastard.
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Costco has excellent return policies, you sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard. Take advantage of them before making a fool of yourself any further.
1 (50%)
Anyone else catch this whiff of "old man smell" in here today?
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I bought an electric guitar. I can't play a note. (Original Post) Ron Obvious May 2013 OP
Unlike an acoustic guitar, you don't have to annoy the neighbors. hunter May 2013 #1
Here's my suggestion... RevStPatrick May 2013 #2
You lost me at 'tuning' and 'open G chord'.... Ron Obvious May 2013 #9
Ah, I see. In that case, I've got another suggestion... RevStPatrick May 2013 #16
I'll make sure to video that and post it on youtube. Ron Obvious May 2013 #23
Tune it like this: DGDGBD...low to high...you can even take off the lowest string... Tom Ripley May 2013 #24
buy a snark clip on electric tuner. they're only around $9.00 mulsh May 2013 #29
This is the correct lowdown. Don't have to be clipon, can just sit there too. dimbear May 2013 #52
Did someone tell you musical talent was a prerequisite to learning the guitar? Iggo May 2013 #3
Great! You're already qualified to be a punk rocker! Chan790 May 2013 #4
That's true! Ron Obvious May 2013 #10
Guitars make pipi_k May 2013 #5
Not a bad idea... Ron Obvious May 2013 #11
I have a suggestion ... AsahinaKimi May 2013 #6
I could do that! Ron Obvious May 2013 #13
13 months ago,I was you...58 year old beginner Flashmann May 2013 #7
You're encouraging me! Ron Obvious May 2013 #14
wasn't inspired by one of my favourite fictional characters, Sir Harry Flashman Flashmann May 2013 #15
On the plus side, my wife's totally fine with it Flashmann May 2013 #18
I'm retired too... Ron Obvious May 2013 #20
That'll be a lot cheaper Flashmann May 2013 #30
Well, do what Flashmann suggested. HappyMe May 2013 #8
Sure... Ron Obvious May 2013 #39
You are awesome! Generic Brad May 2013 #12
You're too kind! Ron Obvious May 2013 #22
Never say "never". GoCubsGo May 2013 #17
One solution - Morning Dew May 2013 #19
Good idea! Ron Obvious May 2013 #21
This is a great thread. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #25
I once had aptitudes... Ron Obvious May 2013 #38
I used to have a bad aptitude, Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #50
Our drummer, Happy Sweaty Jimmy, lived in a large 3-story rowhouse with... MiddleFingerMom May 2013 #26
I could see that! Ron Obvious May 2013 #36
Two words: Power Chords! arcane1 May 2013 #27
"Yes, you really are a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard" SwissTony May 2013 #28
We could form a club Ron Obvious May 2013 #33
Well then... Once you finally figured out how to tune it. Xyzse May 2013 #31
Youtube's great isn't it? Ron Obvious May 2013 #34
Don't know... Xyzse May 2013 #46
Stop whining, get cracking. Set aside a half hour every day. MADem May 2013 #32
Bookmarked! Ron Obvious May 2013 #35
Before ya know it, you'll be firing up your own garage band!!! MADem May 2013 #37
I'm keeping it! Ron Obvious May 2013 #40
Hurrah! MADem May 2013 #41
Take a couple lessons and soon you'll be living the dream... KurtNYC May 2013 #42
LOL Ron Obvious May 2013 #47
Different people play differently, but it's possible to get a smashing sound without practice struggle4progress May 2013 #43
Here watch these Doctor_J May 2013 #44
Eleven guitars here and a mandolin. panader0 May 2013 #45
You mean you're supposed to actually *play* them? dawg May 2013 #48
That's what I'm hoping for! Ron Obvious May 2013 #51
The first thing you need to learn to play a note on a guitar is a guitar - step 1 complete! Rabrrrrrr May 2013 #49
Instead of guitar picking consider nose picking olddots May 2013 #53
That's a skill I've already mastered... Ron Obvious May 2013 #54
 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
2. Here's my suggestion...
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:41 AM
May 2013

Tune it to an open G chord.
That way it sounds good just strumming it.
Then, you can play it with just one finger.

If it's good enough for Keith Richards...

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
16. Ah, I see. In that case, I've got another suggestion...
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:40 PM
May 2013

You should "Townshend" that bad boy!

I had the opportunity to do that once at a gig, and it was one of the happiest days of my life!
I still have most of the pieces. The ones that the audience didn't grab...

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
24. Tune it like this: DGDGBD...low to high...you can even take off the lowest string...
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:40 PM
May 2013

and be just like Keef.
There are also many other great open tunings.
I have been playing for 25 years and only use open tunings. Standard tuning is for suckers who want to work too hard!

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
29. buy a snark clip on electric tuner. they're only around $9.00
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:19 PM
May 2013

clip on to your head stock and are very easy to use. I have one each for all the guitars and mandolins I regularly play with.
here's a link:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--SNASN5

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
52. This is the correct lowdown. Don't have to be clipon, can just sit there too.
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:54 AM
May 2013

I found that they come in really handy if you ever modify your bridge or anything like that, too. Mine is a Korg.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
3. Did someone tell you musical talent was a prerequisite to learning the guitar?
Sat May 11, 2013, 10:50 AM
May 2013

They lied to you, brother!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
4. Great! You're already qualified to be a punk rocker!
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:03 AM
May 2013

Not only can't you play...you've got a great name for it, Mr. Ron Obvious.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
10. That's true!
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:36 AM
May 2013

I've often thought that if I were ever to start a punk rock band, I would name it 'Anal Leakage', after a medical side effect I read on a prescription bottle once.

Now, in concert, it's Ron Obvious and Anal Leakage! They've got three chords between them, but at least they're loud!

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
5. Guitars make
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:07 AM
May 2013

pretty neat wall decorations.

I have one here. Mr Pipi decided some years ago that he wanted to learn to play it.

Unfortunately he got intimidated when I told him my favorite guitarists were people like Carlos Santana, Jimmy Page, etc. I guess he figured he would never get to their level of proficiency. Plus he used to whine a lot about sore fingers.

So he gave two of his smaller ones away and kept one, which is gracing the wall in our living room.

Mocking him.

But at least he can play an instrument of some kind. He used to play the trumpet in a band years ago.

Me...forget it.

I love music and have enough of an "ear" for pitch and all that to know that I can't sing, and I should never be allowed anywhere near a musical instrument. Except maybe a drum made from an empty Quaker Oats container.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
11. Not a bad idea...
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:44 AM
May 2013

My favourite guitarists are Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, and also Carlos Santana (I had dreams of playing 'Samba Pa Ti' when I bought this thing).

I think I might potentially be aiming too high and should perhaps aim for Fred Santana who used to mow our lawns.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
6. I have a suggestion ...
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:11 AM
May 2013

get a bold black magic marker, scribble something that looks like an autograph. Tell everyone it was signed by Jimi Hendrix, and hang it on your wall...

just kidding

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
13. I could do that!
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:50 AM
May 2013

I'm useless as a musician but a halfway decent forger, actually.

Convincing people that Jimi would have signed a 2010 guitar from Costco might be more problematic

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
7. 13 months ago,I was you...58 year old beginner
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:20 AM
May 2013

I'd picked up a $25 elcheapo Washburn at a garage sale,got myself a $30,15 watt practice amp at a pawn shop,and was silly enough to think that somehow,just buy having and playing around with it,I'd learn to play it.Of course that didn't happen and after a few months I got on the Google machine and looked at what sorts of online,DIY lesson were available.Turns out there are a bunch.

I narrowed it all down to a few,the best is: ]http://justinguitar.com/ It has over 500 free lessons and a well planned,structured beginners course,with chord charts and diagrams,text as well as minutes long videos for each lesson.It's a 9 stage beginner course,with each stage having 6-8 individual lessons.Stage 1,for example will teach you the A,D and E open chords and will even detail how to use those chords to play a handful of really simple songs.The Beatle "Love Me Do" being one.Figure 2-6 weeks on each stage,give or take,depending on how much time you put in,which at first won't be much.Your fingers/wrist and even forearm won't take much at first...Personally,it took me 6 weeks just for stage 1.My fingers just wouldn't make the shapes to sound those 1st 3 chords without going through contortions.Right when I thought I'd never be able to do it,I DID do it.

Now,13 months later,I've done the 9 stages of beginner and am midway through the intermediate 5 stage course,(also free),while at the same time going through both the Blues Rythmn and Blues Lead courses,(free again),and studying Practical Music Theory,($15 for an E-Book and well worth it).
Besides playing a handful of very simple basic songs,I'm playing with chord progressions of my own making and even single not runs,solos using the notes within 1 of 4 different scales,I've learned.

If I can do it,ANYone can...Here's a little something to start you off,assuming your guitar is in standard tune.Without even touching the strings anywhere on the neck,pick the top and the bottom strings.The fattest and the thinnest.There's your first note.Both of those are An E.Press either at the first fret,it's an F.Now you know 2 notes in 4 places!

Feel free to PM me if you wnat to know more,or even ask me here.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
14. You're encouraging me!
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:57 AM
May 2013

Thanks for the words of confidence and the helpful suggestions! I'll definitely go check out that website.

Things might not be as bad as I painted earlier. Just a few hours with this thing, and I can already do the first three notes of Smoke on the Water. I may well be mixing up sharps and flats, because it still sounds a bit off, but it's fun at least.

On the plus side, my wife's totally fine with it and has not yet pointed out what else we could have spent that money on

Cool username, btw. Because of the double 'n', I suspect it wasn't inspired by one of my favourite fictional characters, Sir Harry Flashman, but it's still cool.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
15. wasn't inspired by one of my favourite fictional characters, Sir Harry Flashman
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

No,'fraid not.Flash is a nickname I acquired in early grade school.Mann is my surname.

BTW,I have a link for an online tuner,in case you lack one.Your guitar probably didn't come off the shelf in tune.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
18. On the plus side, my wife's totally fine with it
Sat May 11, 2013, 01:50 PM
May 2013

Mine was too,at first.It was actually HER idea that since I was retired,I should learn guitar as a hobby.She badgered me into going to that garage sale EXPLICITLY to buy that guitar,which she'd seen while driving by.

Then,once I'd started seriously trying to learn,she got a bit snippy about it.I'd explained to her in detail,having read up on the subject,that it takes much time and repetition,paraphrasing Joe Walsh,who said you'll do each thing 10,000 times before it really takes.That you only ever get just SO good,and afterward you merely raise your level of horribleness.

I explained all that to the wife as forewarning that it'll be ugly for some time,but that at least it's recommended that you spend no more than 5 minutes at a time on any one thing,to which she nodded in agreement and understanding and expressed encouragement.

Almost immediately upon beginning 5 minute,even 1 minute exercises,such as changing between an E and an A chord,she would,after 30 seconds start whining WHY do I have to do the same thing over and over,it's ANNOYING...Yeah...No shit...That's why I took the time and trouble to forewarn you.

Of course,this is from a woman who screams bloody murder if I so much as draw a glass of tap water while she's in the shower but who thinks nothing of running the clothes and or dishwasher when I'm in the shower. That's a topic for another day,another thread.

Luckily,being retired I have all day,weekdays to practice while she's at work. Weekends,when she's home,gives me recovery time from soreness and muscle fatigue.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
20. I'm retired too...
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:32 PM
May 2013

Fortunately my wife's passion is in gardening, so that keeps her outside and away from the awful noises I'm making.

I think the indulgent smiles have already been giving away to strained, forced smiles, though, and it's only been a day. A headset is probably in order.

Ooh, I know! I'll learn to play 'Happy Birthday' and play it for her on her birthday! That sounds just like the sort of fake, insincere gesture I would make and that always goes over well. I could say that learning to play that for her is my gift to her! That'll be a lot cheaper than an Olive Garden gift certificate or a fancy Cubic Zirconia ring or something.

I've got 5 months...

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
30. That'll be a lot cheaper
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:28 PM
May 2013
than an Olive Garden gift certificate or a fancy Cubic Zirconia ring or something


That's assuming you don't rush out and buy a new Telecaster and a bigger amp,with which to play happy birthday.

I started with the el cheapo Washburn.Within a month I'd upgraded to a Squire Stratocaster and am now looking at Made in Mexico and Made in America Fenders,flip flopping between whether I want another strat or a Telecaster. ,either of which automatically provokes the need for another bigger amp.

Haven't yet learned to properly play,can only handle one at a time,yet,suddenly,I need 3 guitars...

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
8. Well, do what Flashmann suggested.
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:28 AM
May 2013

Or take it back.

edit to add - I did think your OP was pretty funny.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
39. Sure...
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:25 AM
May 2013

Laugh at my pain. Ever thought this self-deprecating humour might be a cry for help and a way to ask for validation and a group hug, huh?

I bet you didn't.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
22. You're too kind!
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:35 PM
May 2013

Actually, I'm self-indulgent and I refuse to dress and act my age, or so I've been recently told.

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
17. Never say "never".
Sat May 11, 2013, 12:59 PM
May 2013

One of my biggest regrets is that I never got to continue the few guitar lessons I had when I was in high school. If I could afford a guitar, I'd try to teach myself now. Loads of lessons on the Internet. Maybe if you find the right instructor, you might find a way to stick with it...

Morning Dew

(6,539 posts)
19. One solution -
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:04 PM
May 2013

Drums are better for this but you could give it to the child of someone you don't like very well.

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
26. Our drummer, Happy Sweaty Jimmy, lived in a large 3-story rowhouse with...
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:46 PM
May 2013

.
.
.
... 3-to-4 housemates. One day, he saw a used steel drum on sale and snatched it up.
He just LOVED playing that thing. Though he was a pretty good drummer, the onliest
thing he learned how to play on it was "Three Blind Mice" -- which he could play for
hours at a time.
.
Far as I know, he never learned how to play anything else... but he loved playing
THAT so much that he became Happier Sweatier Jimmy.
.
Oh... and his housemates called an emergency house meeting and it was resolved
immediately and to infinity and beyond that he would NEVER again play that steel
drum whenever there was the slightest chance that there might be another one of
his housemates in the house.
.
.
.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
36. I could see that!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:04 AM
May 2013

Such a happy sound, steel drums, making one think of Rum & Caribbean vacations, dancing girls & sunshine. Having to live with it though... My sympathies definitely lie with the housemates.

Fortunately, Frau Obvious and I live in a fully-detached house in the suburbs so there will be no complaints!

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
28. "Yes, you really are a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard"
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:47 PM
May 2013

Not like me who has 3 guitars (one electric, one acoustic, one classical), two flutes, a tin whistle and a harmonica.

Can't play any of them.

I think I've got a piccolo somewhere too.

So, I'm worse than you.

I too am a sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard. Just more so.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
33. We could form a club
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:53 AM
May 2013

The sad, pathetic, middle-aged bastard society. We could bring our instruments and swap lies about our lives.

I see healing in this.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
31. Well then... Once you finally figured out how to tune it.
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
May 2013

Head to Youtube for tutorials on pretty much any song you could think of.
Still, if I were you, I'd return it for an acoustic.

Good luck!

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
34. Youtube's great isn't it?
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:57 AM
May 2013

I hooted in derision about its chances of success when I first heard about it, but youtube's been fantastic. I've learnt how to do plumbing projects and fix a LCD tv through soldering capacitors, and now it's going to turn me into a rock God!

I wonder how I'll be able to cope with all the groupies?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
46. Don't know...
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:07 PM
May 2013

I finally learned how to play "My Guitar Gently Weeps" on the Ukulele.
Not well, but passable.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. Stop whining, get cracking. Set aside a half hour every day.
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:12 PM
May 2013

It beats playing with matches or in traffic.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
35. Bookmarked!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:00 AM
May 2013

This is aimed exactly at my level of expertise! So that's what those dots are there for!

Thanks!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. Before ya know it, you'll be firing up your own garage band!!!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:17 AM
May 2013

You'll be like those guys in the Viagra commercial, minus those "knowing smiles~!"



Go for it! It's never too late to learn a new thing!
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
40. I'm keeping it!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:30 AM
May 2013

The joy and fantasies it's brought me have already justified the purchase price!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. Hurrah!
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:34 AM
May 2013

Just do a little every day--I think you will surprise yourself. You'll definitely have fun, and playing a musical instrument keeps the cobwebs at bay...!

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
44. Here watch these
Sun May 12, 2013, 08:53 AM
May 2013

They will inspire you to either become Albert Lee or David Hidalgo, or go get your money back

&list=PL935EBB146C292F06&index=20



panader0

(25,816 posts)
45. Eleven guitars here and a mandolin.
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:08 AM
May 2013

Also a band shed filled with all the needed equipment. I'm 62 and still learning. One thing I've learned is that Jeannie doe not want me to buy another guitar.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
51. That's what I'm hoping for!
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:54 AM
May 2013

I was relegated to the triangle in school, an instrument well-known for its powers to not attract nubile groupies.

These are the dreams I was talking about.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
49. The first thing you need to learn to play a note on a guitar is a guitar - step 1 complete!
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:38 PM
May 2013

Congratulations on getting a guitar!!

As others have said, now all it will take is some playing around on it.

Find someone who can help you tune it, and then go play! Not so hard, really, once you get into it. However frightening it may seem, you will get past that fear very quickly and be making music - and having better health because of it. Unless you become a booze addled rock star succumbing to hard living, but that's not a fault of the music.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
53. Instead of guitar picking consider nose picking
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:34 AM
May 2013

When I finally got good at picking people wanted to pay me to pick at parties ,dances and night clubs . Now I pick my nose in front of huge crowds and " the chicks dig me "

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
54. That's a skill I've already mastered...
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:51 AM
May 2013

I've had to beat them off with a stick, I tell you. Go away, you van-loads of nubile cheerleaders who wish me to satisfy them carnally I tell them, but they keep coming.

It's exhausting.

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