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Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:24 PM May 2013

Presidents I have hated.

Last edited Thu May 30, 2013, 09:12 PM - Edit history (6)

There were only three. Which of them was the worst?





Note on edit: By popular demand, I have added an "all of the above" option.

DU's software for editing a poll does not work properly. When there are apostrophes or quotation marks in the "Poll options", the software inserts slash marks. I keep taking them out, and the software keeps putting them back in. That's why I have edited the OP so many times. Now I have removed the offending punctuation marks, and I hope the editing software wil not fuck up the poll this time.


13 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Richard (the Dick) Nixon
1 (8%)
Ronald (Bonzo) Ray Gun
2 (15%)
George W. (War Criminal) Bush
9 (69%)
All of the above
1 (8%)
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Presidents I have hated. (Original Post) Lionel Mandrake May 2013 OP
The insanity began with Nixon...and his silent majority bs. Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #1
Morality to Nixon meant putting on a coat and tie and being seen in the vicinity of a church. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #3
Exactly. Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #4
The War Criminal was just trying to finish what Reagan started. liberal N proud May 2013 #2
When Ray Gun was running for Governor of California, Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #5
Yep. He ran this country off the rails. Arugula Latte May 2013 #7
It's so hard to decide HeiressofBickworth May 2013 #6
Although I voted "All of the above", Art_from_Ark May 2013 #29
In about twenty years the country will realize what Runny Ray-gun did olddots May 2013 #8
Each Republican nominee since Gerald Ford has declined in both talent and intelligence Rowdyboy May 2013 #9
I'm to fucking young on these forums lol. Locut0s May 2013 #10
Aah shaddap, ya dang whippersnapper Arugula Latte May 2013 #20
No contest. LWolf May 2013 #11
American idiot bluedave May 2013 #13
I voted for Dub, even though Reagan was probably worst bigwillq May 2013 #12
Where is the "All of the Above, and Bush I, too!" option??? lastlib May 2013 #14
My thoughts exactly! Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #18
Where's that war-mongering fucker, Poppy? MrScorpio May 2013 #15
No can do. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #19
"Nowhere near" ? Myrina May 2013 #21
Disparaging environmentalists, October Surprises etc. are not crimes. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #23
Hated all three, but GW Bush the most. n/t RebelOne May 2013 #16
The Shrub! hamsterjill May 2013 #17
I'm only old enough to remember one tabbycat31 May 2013 #22
Pass Wait Wut May 2013 #24
I've updated the poll. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #27
I have to go with RR SteveG May 2013 #25
That's like choosing between tyhphoid, cholera and smallpox!!!!! LongTomH May 2013 #26
Or choosing whether you wish to be executed by hanging, beheading, or the electric chair. Lionel Mandrake May 2013 #28
George H.W. Bush LiberalEsto May 2013 #30

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
1. The insanity began with Nixon...and his silent majority bs.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:27 PM
May 2013

Took to moralizing and the liberal agenda was always the culprit. Turned out he didn't have a clue about morality.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
3. Morality to Nixon meant putting on a coat and tie and being seen in the vicinity of a church.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:27 PM
May 2013

I wrote a letter to my congressman recommending impeachment the day after the Saturday Night Massacre. By then it had become obvious that Tricky Dick was trying to cover up the Watergate scandal.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
4. Exactly.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:31 PM
May 2013

I've always believed Nixon set the tone that allowed Reagan to hoodwink half the nation into believing he had an active brain cell and cared about the nation.

Nixon also worked hard to keep Carter from reaching any kind of cease fire in Vietnam.... He was incredibly immoral.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. The War Criminal was just trying to finish what Reagan started.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:28 PM
May 2013

Reagan was put in office to do what Nixon was supposed to do but failed.

Every problem this country has today can be attributed to a Reagan era decision or policy.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
5. When Ray Gun was running for Governor of California,
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:47 PM
May 2013

he did his best to destroy the University of California, and especially the Berkeley campus. As governor he continued this effort, and did lasting harm to the University. Later he destroyed PATCO, the union representing air traffic controllers. Among his other accomplishments was the "Strategic Defense Initative" (aka Star Wars), in which Raygun was aided and abetted by Edward Teller, aka "Strangelove West", aka the Father of the H-Bomb. Teller's favorite Star Wars project was the X-Ray Laser, which never worked (Teller's lies to the contrary notwithstanding) but soaked up lots of the taxpayers' money. These are just a few of the things we have Raygun to thank for.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
7. Yep. He ran this country off the rails.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:10 AM
May 2013

He turned me into a liberal at age 14 and I utterly despised him, but back then I had not a clue just how terrible he would ultimately prove to be.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
6. It's so hard to decide
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:03 AM
May 2013

Each one (Nixon, Reagan, W) created short and long term damage to the country, its economy and its standing in the world. Each one was responsible for the deaths of numerous people from Vietnam to Iraq. So which was the worst? Perhaps we can just agree that Republican presidents aren't good for America.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
29. Although I voted "All of the above",
Fri May 31, 2013, 04:44 AM
May 2013

I think that Tricky Dick wasn't as bad as Reagan, in that at least Nixon did finally pull the troops out of Vietnam and he was supportive of some important environmental legislation. However, Nixon, like Reagan, stirred up trouble in Latin America and surrounded himself with crooks. And their respective attorneys-general (John Mitchell and Edwin Meese) were the antipathy of the positions they held. However, Nixon's Interior secretary, Walter Hickel, was certainly better than James Watt.

Of course, with bu$h Jr, just about everything he touched turned to crap.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
8. In about twenty years the country will realize what Runny Ray-gun did
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:31 AM
May 2013

Coke , greed , deregulations more greed , more coke and greed .
The scum bags love him because he was what they want =a dumb old white sell out bad actor corporate turd maggot.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
9. Each Republican nominee since Gerald Ford has declined in both talent and intelligence
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:40 AM
May 2013

That says a lot about the state of the party.

Dubya wins hands down only because McCain and Romney never became president (thanks be to God!)

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
10. I'm to fucking young on these forums lol.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
May 2013

Earliest president I remember is Bush Sr. If I had to choose a president who has historically done the worst damage I would say Reagan though. He's the one who single-handedly, during his administration that is, started dismantling the public sector. The right wing nut jobs that came after were just walking in his footsteps.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
12. I voted for Dub, even though Reagan was probably worst
Wed May 29, 2013, 08:31 AM
May 2013

I guess I don't realize how bad RayGun was because I was too young.
But I do realize how bad GWB was, so that's why I voted for him.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
14. Where is the "All of the Above, and Bush I, too!" option???
Wed May 29, 2013, 09:54 AM
May 2013

I'm not greatly fond of Ford, either, given his pardon of Nixon, and his fealty to war criminal extraordinaire Henry Kissinger. Google "Kissinger East Timor" and read the shocking contempt for human rights the Ford/Kissinger regime displayed.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
18. My thoughts exactly!
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:10 PM
May 2013

I voted for Nixon because I believe he set the stage... without him the others would not have been so successful. He willfully divided the nation... imo

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
15. Where's that war-mongering fucker, Poppy?
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:20 AM
May 2013

Underhanded, CIA dirty-trickin', blood soaked, lying sonovabeyotch, that asshole is.

Fix yer poll.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
19. No can do.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:21 PM
May 2013

I never hated Poppy, so i can't honestly add him to the list.

IMHO Poppy was a bad president, but nowhere near as bad as his son. Poppy showed restraint in the (first) Gulf War, when our invasion of Iraq was not unproked and hence not a war crime. Just my opinion.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
21. "Nowhere near" ?
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:34 PM
May 2013

Arms-for-hostages?
October Surprise?
The fact that the 1st Gulf War's "line in the sand" just happend to be very near Jr's oil property?
Disparaging environmentalists/Al Gore ("Ozone&quot because they were discussing environmental issues lonnng before it became cool?

Are you kidding?

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
23. Disparaging environmentalists, October Surprises etc. are not crimes.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:52 PM
May 2013

Arms for hostages was bad, but war crimes (as defined at the 1945-46 Nuremberg Trials) are worse. Iran-Contra happened during Raygun's 2nd term, when Poppy was VP. Poppy's main contribution came later -- he pardoned some of the perpetrators during the final days of his presidency. Again this was bad, but not a crime. Ditto for the oil aspect of Gulf I.

Which October Surprise did you have in mind? There's one in almost every election.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. The Shrub!
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:08 PM
May 2013

Hated every minute that the idiot was in the white house. I honestly believed then (and still now) that Shrub was unstable and that there was no telling what he might pull.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
22. I'm only old enough to remember one
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:09 PM
May 2013

I was not around during the Nixon administration, and Reagan was elected when I was a baby so I can only judge those two by history.

However, I awoke politically because of George W. Bush so I can safely say I hated him (as a president, I'm sure he's a nice person).

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
25. I have to go with RR
Wed May 29, 2013, 09:45 PM
May 2013

Without Reagan, Bush II would not have been possible. It was Reagan who unleashed the Radical Reactionary forces in this nation. It was Reagan that gave the Neo-Cons, Religious fanatics and the Economic Libertarians the legitimacy to have a place on the national political scene.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
28. Or choosing whether you wish to be executed by hanging, beheading, or the electric chair.
Thu May 30, 2013, 08:50 PM
May 2013

NB: you can now vote for all three.

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