The Walking Dead 4.7 "Dead Weight" (Spoiler Alert!)

[NewJeffCT]

Something new unfolds at a camp outside the prison; the addition of new members may threaten peace.

AMC zapped the spoiler filled New Zealand and Brazil previews, but the Brazil one is here for now: http://dai.ly/x17h3cc

[NewJeffCT]

1. counting it down

I think we'll get some with the prison crew this week.

[texanwitch]

2. I have been frying turkeys all day.

Also holding classes on how to do it yourself.

It is cold here, so the little bonfire felt great.

The show looks good tonight.

I wonder if the prison group has Thankgiving.

I am sure there must be some wild turkeys somewhere in the woods.

[texanwitch]

15. The gov is bad ass tonight.

Didn't the other guys ever deal with walkers before.

[NewJeffCT]

16. I think so

but, that was close quarters and they were surprised.

[texanwitch]

17. Two of them were almost walker food.

The gov is a ass hole but he knows how to take a out a walker.

In their world you can't make mistakes.

[Brigid]

61. I think you've hit on why the Governor has returned to his old ways.

He has seen signs of weakness and sloppiness (the drinking, for example) that he cannot tolerate if he is to protect his new family in this group.

[texanwitch]

63. You are so right.

He does not like weakness.

The brother that was killed freaked out over the heads.

The Gov had heads in water tanks.

[Solly Mack]

3. I'm already sick of the Governor.

I look forward to his demise. I'm just afraid the prison group will suffer losses to get there.

[NewJeffCT]

4. You're probably right

in that the group will lose a few. But, they have a lot of "red shirts" on the show still, so it's a matter of if you lose Rick, Carl, Daryl, Michonne, Tyreese, Bob, Sasha, Hershel, Maggie, Beth or Judith, (and possibly Carol?) or you lose somebody else.

[Solly Mack]

5. I fear it will be one of the core group.

The "red shirts" are red shirts for a reason.

[NewJeffCT]

6. My guess

is that Hershel is not long for the show - he had his heroic sendoff two episodes ago where he & Maggie held the prison together.

[Solly Mack]

7. I'd hate that but it would follow.

I'm watching the last episode again and it occurred to me that the new woman the Governor hooks up with sorta looks like Maggie. I wonder if that was deliberate - considering his assault on Maggie. Sort of sick twisted turn that would appeal to the Governor.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

9. I think you're right about the send-off episode,

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and also, I re-watched the trailer from Brazil, and in the opening scene Martinez and Co. are approaching a Jeep, guns drawn, then 14 seconds later it looks like Hershel is inspecting the same Jeep.

On edit: different Jeep

[Vashta Nerada]

8. I'm actually holding onto hope that he's out for redemption.

Maybe this feeling is leftover from watching "The Day of the Doctor" yesterday (the Doctor is an optimist!), but I'm holding onto hope that the Governor is seeking redemption for his past actions.

But I don't think that's going to happen.

[NewJeffCT]

10. he may be trying to redeem himself

but, the guy's a multiple time mass murderer...

But, I think something will force him over the line

[Solly Mack]

53. I never thought he had changed.

Never liked his character.

[NewJeffCT]

11. interesting start

with the chess board

[NewJeffCT]

12. nice cutaway

doing laundry, then move the camera back and a tank is there

[charlie and algernon]

13. The Governor better be careful that Joe Toye doesn't slit his throat

[NewJeffCT]

14. headless body

with a sign attached. Another mystery

[NewJeffCT]

18. boy, that one woman does look like Maggie

I wonder if it's intentional or not

[texanwitch]

19. Duck tape.

Always useful even in a walker world.

[texanwitch]

20. Yep.

Here it comes.

Into the pit.

Good bye.

[NewJeffCT]

23. that was a quick exit

for Martinez

[NewJeffCT]

21. RIP Martinez

where was everybody else?

[texanwitch]

24. Now, the gov has to come up with a story.

The gov didn't like that trailer.

It was just a matter of time.

Drinking.

I don't think the Gov liked that.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. That didn't last even half an hour.

I guess the Talking Dead main topic of the week is now obsolete.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

93. I was surprised that Shumpert

didn't make it.

[Vashta Nerada]

22. Well, my hypothesis about redemption just went out the window.

[Brigid]

26. I wouldn't give it up just yet.

What does he mean by "I don't want it?"

[Baitball Blogger]

97. He might be developing a split personality.

[texanwitch]

27. Somebody will be gone soon.

Shouldn't have called her the b word.

[Brigid]

28. That is a fightin' word, to put it mildly.

[NewJeffCT]

29. no, but

he is the guy that can drive the tank?

[texanwitch]

33. The Gov gave him the look.

That was one of the Gov's women.

[NewJeffCT]

35. I know

the guy's an asshole and seems to be losing it

[texanwitch]

30. Good guy, bad guy.

I wonder how many groups there are hiding around.

On the road again.

Don't blame the Gov on that one.

I hate him but he knows what to do.

Pit sand walkers.

[Brigid]

34. His inner alarm bells were going off.

Loudly. Best to listen when that happens.

[NewJeffCT]

31. Muddy Walkers

that was weird

[Brigid]

32. What is this?!

[texanwitch]

36. That was neat.

Dirty, muddy zombies stuck in quick sand.

That stuff is bad.

I had my foot stuck in it one time, scary.

[NewJeffCT]

37. guv is going crazy

and taking over

[texanwitch]

38. Back again.

Here it comes.

Needs the guy for the tank for the prison.

The Gov is back.

Didn't take long.

[NewJeffCT]

39. he saw his chance

and took it

[texanwitch]

40. He said it.

Going to do what it takes.

How much fuel does a tank use.

[NewJeffCT]

42. I'm guessing it takes a lot of fuel

probably diesel, too, but I could be wrong

[Brigid]

43. Yes, but why?

That's the question.

[NewJeffCT]

51. he thinks he can use them

to get back at Rick, Michonne and the rest of the prison crew

[texanwitch]

52. Could knock down a fence.

Wonder if the tank has shells.

The tank was in the show for a reason.

[NewJeffCT]

41. what the heck is #48?

the commercial sponsored by Verizon?

[Solly Mack]

65. lol I'm still wondering about that.

[texanwitch]

44. Cool.

Swimming walker.

No.

WW3 going to happen next week.

[NewJeffCT]

47. was he tied/weighted down?

under the water so he couldn't get out

[texanwitch]

58. I don't remember.

Most likely so he wouldn't float up.

No knife to the head.

[Brigid]

49. Maybe an hallucination?

[Incitatus]

45. DAMNIT! nt

[Vashta Nerada]

46. Who's going to die midseason finale?

[NewJeffCT]

50. Does the Guv

have enough restraint not to shoot Michonne?

[texanwitch]

56. That is a good question.

We did get left wondering.

[Baitball Blogger]

98. Herschel.

He had his moment. When someone gets more lines in this show, it usually means they are not long in the zombie new world.

[NewJeffCT]

101. yes - RIP T-Dogg

from last year. Finally got more than "hell yeah" as a line, and then he dies.

[Brigid]

103. T-Dogg!

[charlie and algernon]

48. next week's episode is going to be INSANE.

Though I really thought this episode was essentially a trial run to show that a Walking Dead Spinoff could work.

[Brigid]

55. Yes, it will be.

Hard to believe the season is almost half over already.

[texanwitch]

54. The little girl being almost zombie food made the good excuse for attacking.

I wonder how good the Gov's army will be this time.

He does have a tank.

[Solly Mack]

57. Well, damn. Next week will suck.

I knew the Governor was still the Governor. I'm already worried about who will die next week. Hope the Governor is one anyway. Fear it might track with the comics so that Hershel and Judith die. Beth, too...holding the baby. (ala Lori in the comics)

Daryl is the wild card. Not in the comics (neither is Beth, for that matter...not by that name anyway).....how will he fare in the show?

Questions. Questions.

[texanwitch]

59. We will be left hanging.

This is how they keep us coming back.

How long is the break.

[Solly Mack]

60. Until February, I think.

The meanies.

[texanwitch]

62. The actors do have the right to the holidays.

And rest.

The show looks tough to work on.

[Solly Mack]

64. I guess so. lol (pouting)

Who do you think the marauding gang is killing off the other camps/people?

Wonder if they know about the prison?

[texanwitch]

66. I was wondering about that.

Who ever did the killing seemed really quiet about it.

Maybe they think the prison is to big to attack.

Enough small groups to pick off.

[Solly Mack]

67. Last week DM said something about Rick/Gov. joining up to address another threat.

It was speculation but maybe, just maybe....

Though I honestly can't see the prison crew accepting anything about the Governor.

I hope Michonne kills him.

[texanwitch]

68. I wouldn't trust the Gov for any reason.

He might work with Rick for a short time then take over.

He has a history now.

[Solly Mack]

71. He'd kill Rick first chance.

On Talking Dead, the preview just now, the Governor's group has some of Rick's people. DM/Guv. said that the prison group will notice their people gone. Wonder if he means Hershel and Michonne.

[texanwitch]

76. They were out in the woods.

Easy picking, if not paying attention.

Will our guys be up to a fight with the flu.

If the Gov has some of the prison group, the Gov's group might see that the Gov is lying to them.

[Solly Mack]

82. Hershel was probably looking for more herbs and stuff.

Had Michonne along for protection. They really should maintain their guard at all times.


I don't much think well of anyone willing to attack another group just to get their stuff. So all the Governor's group could die and I wouldn't care.


The Governor is real good at getting people to believe lies. They want to believe them and some don't care if they are being told lies.

[texanwitch]

87. He has Penny Jr. now to protect.

He will say and do anything to keep her safe.

He isn't sane anymore.

[Solly Mack]

89. Was he ever sane?

I mean, since his introduction.

[texanwitch]

90. I think he had moments here and there.

It was short lived.

He now wants that prison.

I just noticed he said his father was not so nice him when he was hanging clothes at the beginning.

This might play into this.

[Solly Mack]

91. I heard him say that. I'm not feeling sorry for him though.

[texanwitch]

92. Me either.

But it does explain his actions.

His father may have seen him as weak.

With his mind going south, he may be trying to be strong like his father.

The Gov is a bad dude.

He has to be in charge, or he will kill you.

[Brigid]

69. I have finally figured out who David Morrisey reminds me of:

Liam Neeson.

[NewJeffCT]

70. good comparison

never thought of it, but you're right

[Brigid]

77. I adore Liam Neeson.

[Duer 157099]

94. That, mixed with Kurt Russell and a hint of Patrick Swayze

but mostly Neeson

[NewJeffCT]

96. True, but with the eye patch

and leather jacket, he does look a bit like Snake Plisskin.

[texanwitch]

72. A very special guest next week, wonder who it will be.

The old Gov was really getting the crowd a story there.

They do out number our guys, but how good do they fight.

[Solly Mack]

73. The special guest star will be one of the dead again, maybe. Like this week.

[Brigid]

74. I would like it to be Dale.

Or maybe Herschel.

[Solly Mack]

75. But I don't want Hershel to die. :(

[Brigid]

78. I don't either.

But I fear for him.

[Solly Mack]

80. Me, too.

[texanwitch]

79. Me either.

But the group has Bob now, so they have a medic.

[Solly Mack]

81. But I don't like Bob.

[texanwitch]

83. I don't either but they need some medical aid.

Carol is gone.

Maybe Bob will do something brave next week.

He did help save the flu victims.

[Solly Mack]

84. Well, Daryl did promise to take him out otherwise. lol

That he had to stay sober or else until the people got their meds.

[texanwitch]

85. I will give Bob a chance for now.

He knew how to give the meds to the flu victims.

I don't like that he wrecked the Big Spot store, that place had lots of good stuff.

I may change my mind next week.

[Brigid]

86. Watching the repeat, I noticed something:

1. The guys the Governor took out in this episode were mostly ex-army, and they seem to have bugged out when it hit the fan -- unreliable, in other words.

[texanwitch]

88. Very

If our guys were all healthy and ready it would be ok.

We are missing Carol, Glen is sick.

Two are out in the woods.

Doesn't look so good.

[NewJeffCT]

95. some of the women there

also have some experience, no?

the group in Woodbury really had nobody, either. Merle was it - Martinez/Shumpert?

[Baitball Blogger]

99. Also, Dale is going to be pissed off because of Carol.

[NewJeffCT]

100. yeah, we haven't even gotten to that part yet

I wonder how Daryl will react?

[Brigid]

102. Oh, that's right!

I had been enjoying these Governor-centric episodes, I'd forgotten that Daryl does not yet know what happened. That will not sit well with him. I wonder if he will decide to go looking for her.

[okieinpain]

104. i'm really tired of the governor, this is really getting old. n/t.

[Baitball Blogger]

105. Someone brought up some interesting parallels

Lilly—As gullible as Andrea.
Megan—Zombie bait (totally the new Sophia).

I can see history repeating itself.