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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsSo I have a weird etiquette question to ask
My girlfriend decided to end it with me a few days ago. I got her a gift for Xmas already and the question is do I invite her over and giver her the gift or do I just let it be.
Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)That's what I'd do.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)And giving it to her could be very awkward.
Move on to a better life.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)She dumped you, you don't owe her a damn thing.
rug
(82,333 posts)BadGimp
(4,015 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)If it was more your fault and both of you agree on that, arrange to take it to her anyway. If you invite her over to your place, she'll just think you're trying to bribe her to return. If it was largely her fault and you're aware of that, don't throw good $ (or emotions) after bad. Either return the gift to the store if possible; if not, save it as a present for a more worthy person at the proper time.
My experience has been that if you think you possibly can live w/o a particular person, you're (maybe both) better off split, especially if it's amicable. There's been more than one man in my own life that I thought I couldn't breathe w/o, yet when I had to, it proved a blessing and a relief. Make of that what you wish.
At this point there's only one that I still miss - a gentleman loosely attached to Sinn Fein - and he died, but I didn't want to join him; not too soon, anyway. Plenty of time in real eternity. If that turns out to be mere fantasy, then nothing's lost because neither of us will know, right? So it's good either way. I'm not a person who tends to confuse my beliefs and/or preferences with likely reality. Things simply are what they are, and we find out soon enough.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)her away so I guess it's my fault. But the complicated part to all this I've always been more of a loner and always had issues adjusting to being in a relationship so I kind of feel like life moves on. I guess it's better to just return the gift than invite an awkward moment
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)Anyone who would break up with someone else because of their depression this close to the holidays doesn't understand it at all and you are better off without them
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)I'd like to admit because of it. Even managed to be dead briefly because of it but was found and my life saved which led to a long stay in the mental wing of the hospital
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)Life long issues with emotional problems myself. Never been able to hold down a job or school for more than a couple of years at a time. It's really messed with my life. If you ever need someone to talk to don't hesitate to PM me!!
If she knew about your history, it's even more unforgivable that she would dump you at this time of the year. What it couldn't have waited a few weeks? Talk about being selfish!
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)I originally was going to be a lawyer 2 years into college I had a breakdown of sorts came out the other side deciding to follow my passion for food about the only times I'm at peace is when I'm cooking and playing music
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)The rest doesn't matter one tinny bit!
I was going to be an astrophysicist. Still looking for something that I'm at peace with.
Cooking is a wonderful profession!
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Were he alive today, he'd probably have spent time in a mental ward too instead of getting to be the greatest president ever. I once worked in a psych crash ward, and I can't begin to tell you how much I preferred most of the clients over most of the staff.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)He spoke fluent Italian and played guitar he broke the rules by bringing me a guitar to play while I was in there.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)For some it's a chronic condition, but it lurks around the corner for all of us.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)one mental disease or other. As you point out, frequently it's depression. There were two instances in my own life where I really preferred to die, the sooner the better. Had no concious intent to make it happen, but if a Mack truck had been barreling down on me at the time, I don't think I would've stepped aside either. While I didn't care much for most of the staff, I felt I learned a lot from the clients at the crash ward where I worked. Got along fine with them, partly because if a naggy rule could be ignored, I would. One big guy declared himself my protector because when I made rounds at night, I'd slip peanut butter crackers in his bedside table drawer because he hated to get up for breakfast, and they wouldn't allow anything else for him to eat until lunch. He'd hide the wrapper and dispose of it discreetly so I never got in trouble. We had each other's back.
One thing I detested about the staff was their culture of warfare against their charges. If I said anything good or praised a client's improvement, they'd pitch fits about it. And of course they chewed on each other something awful.
The weirdest thing I saw was when a female tech chewed out the male charge nurse for a medical decision he made, and the big strapping guy backed down like a little mouse. She later threw a chair at me. I always considered her by far the most dangerous person in the place. In fact, she had the administrators cowed. When I reported the chair throwing incident, they held a big meeting and told me point blank it was my fault for upsetting her!
One time a female charge nurse told me to take a new guy's duffel bag to the locker room because the techs weren't handy just then; I said fine, let me check it first. Nothing was supposed to be stored w/o careful inspection, of course, and I'd have to sign for it. She argued no, it's already been checked - just lock it away. I stood there anyway, unzipped it, and pulled out a huge butcher knife! Wondered aloud how in the world the tech had missed that.
As you might guess, it probably came from our own kitchen and she'd put it there so that later someone could check it in the locker room and get me fired for dereliction. That was the same charge nurse who'd let her license lapse when her father died, and she even told me about it; I knew she'd get around to renewing it as soon as she recovered, so I never turned her in. But she had no problem trying to roll over on me!
No mystery why I preferred the clients! If any ever had hurt me at all, it would've been more a result of their illness rather than ill intent. Although none of them ever did bother me at all, even in the worst depths of a psychotic episode. I guess they could've but no one ever did.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Have you joined our Loners Group? We don't post much, but it's an understanding bunch. One person told about he/she and the spouse lived together but it was usually in different parts of the house. They each liked knowing the other was there and accessible, but never crowding. Sounded like an ideal situation to me. While it may be unusual and not for everyone, it works great for them. I know I can take about 24 hours of somebody at my elbow before I get cranky. People don't need to be shadows.
For instance, even my dearly beloved son was sent off to camp in the summer as soon as he reached age 5. The first time I picked him up, he said something that might've crushed a helicopter mom but made me terribly proud. He announced, "Guess what, Mom? I didn't miss you at all!" A little left handed perhaps, but to me it meant I was rearing an affectionate but healthy, independent youngster.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)I can definitely relate to the 24 hour thing. I didn't do well in a relationship because I'm not a hands on cuddly have to be around someone all the time person. But she was so at times I'd get very flustered.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I don't think people talk about it enough to their dates/mates.
but LOTS of people are not cuddle bunnies and is best to have that discussion early in the game.
having said that, it took me some time with Mr.dixie before I realized we both needed what he calls "long leashes"
in terms of LOTS of alone time by ourselves to think and read.
Something is working, it has been 15 years so far.
Many people feel guilty about not wanting "closeness" as much as the tv and other cultural messages tell us is
"normal".
LumosMaxima
(585 posts)And what horrible timing.
I don't think you are obligated to give the gift. In fact, I think you should return it and buy yourself something to console you. You have to take good care of yourself after a breakup.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)what'cha looking at? I've got my eye on a 8½" Shun but since my parents are helping me with my rent, I've been threatened with grievous bodily harm if I use my Amazon gift cards to buy cutlery instead of clothes and don't put the cash towards my student loans before they fall into default.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,835 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Did she give you a Christmas gift?
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)and as a result she may not welcome it. So if you're wondering about what the appropriate thing to do in terms of etiquette, don't contact her or give her the gift. If you have other motives, then go ahead and give it to her. Just realize what you are doing and how she will see it.
It's a lousy time of the year to be dumped, Arcanetrance. I'm sorry this happened.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)A merry holiday to you
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Happy Holidays!
intaglio
(8,170 posts)Then give the present anyway, but make clear that there is no quid pro quo involved.
It's Christmas not Points Scoringmas
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Then he gave the pearl bracelet he had bought for me to his mother for Christmas.
Then a month later we made up, and he took the bracelet back from his mother and gave it to me.
Cheap.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)If not, give it to her - as rug said, "The guilt will be worth it."
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 26, 2013, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)
A weird etiquette question would be like:
So I spilled my scotch on my lap while sitting in the parlor.
And upon retiring to the powder room to dry my pants, I had inadvertently grazed a lit candle, thus igniting the crotch of my pants.
In my panic I attempted to douse the fire by straddling the bidet and turning on the water.
However, since it was an alcohol fire, the water instantly spread the flames to the back of my pants.
Realizing that the water was exasperating the situation, I made use of one of my hosts monogrammed towels to smother the fire in my crotch and hind quarters.
After the fire had been summarily dispatched, I realized that in my panic, I had slightly shat myself, and had horribly defaced the personalized linen that I made use of.
I refolded the towel as to hide this defacement, and to properly display the beautiful stitching of the monogram.
I then composed myself to return to the dinner party, which was no small feat considering the degree of the burns to the entirety of my crotch.
To add to this, the fire had all but completely burned away the front, and a good portion of the rear of my pants.
So Lieutenant Richard and the Sergeants were prominently on display.
During my valiant effort at fighting my fire, I realized that I had missed the call to dine.
Upon entering the dining room, with my most private of privates viewable to all, smoke still lightly trailing from my now worse-for-wear pants, and trailing a steady drip of bidet water the whole way, I took my seat.
It was at that moment, I was left with the utmost etiquette conundrum.
Since I had missed the salad course, what do I do with the little fork?
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)If she contacts you casually, you will unambiguously know if she's still interested in a relationship.
Following up with a gift after being dumped is the last thing you want to do.