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Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:46 AM Jan 2014

Here's a thought for Hollywood and their fight against piracy

How about make more than one movie every year or two that's worth actually spending money on. It seems most of what Hollywood puts out is mindless filler rehashing or rebooting or remaking the same stuff over and over again. No wonder people would rather pirate most movies

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Here's a thought for Hollywood and their fight against piracy (Original Post) Arcanetrance Jan 2014 OP
It's been about 6 years since I went into a movie theatre.. uriel1972 Jan 2014 #1
I don't mind paying, as long as I can actually access it. Xyzse Jan 2014 #2
Audiences love mindless filler rehashes and reboots ... Auggie Jan 2014 #3
This last year saw more decent mainstream films than normal Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #4
Major studios are owned by the likes of Sony, FOX News, Time-Warner, Viacom, Comcast... Auggie Jan 2014 #8
I'll care about Hollywood and Piracy when they start making more MicaelS Jan 2014 #5
Couldn't agree more. I know my niece watches this show supernatural Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #6
As a Canadian... Locut0s Jan 2014 #17
China is becoming Hollywood's largest customer Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #7
Plenty of excellent films this year. I don't know what you're talking about. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #9
What really should happen is that they should lower the costs of going to the theaters Yavin4 Jan 2014 #10
Disagree. I love the experience of going to the movies. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #11
I kinda agree. Xyzse Jan 2014 #12
Not a bad idea, but HERVEPA Jan 2014 #13
Oh come on... They could just cordon off some of that area. Xyzse Jan 2014 #15
I guess so. Probably not worth the trouble to them. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #20
You're right. Xyzse Jan 2014 #21
They just need more flops jakeXT Jan 2014 #14
The sad truth of it is.... Locut0s Jan 2014 #16
I watch the mindless stuff sometimes and it can be amusing Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #19
Well, looking at the Vancouver movie listing, I see maybe seven of the movies HERVEPA Jan 2014 #23
Hollywood puts out some 600+ films a year though... Locut0s Jan 2014 #24
It'd never work KamaAina Jan 2014 #18
What are these writers of which you speak?... nt uriel1972 Jan 2014 #22

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
1. It's been about 6 years since I went into a movie theatre..
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jan 2014

Got tired of walking out early and kissing that cash goodbye. I don't pirate, but it is very rare that I actually buy and watch a movie.

People should be paid for watching much of the crap that's put out these days.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
2. I don't mind paying, as long as I can actually access it.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jan 2014

The only reason I even consider piracy is because of stuff that needs to be translated that appear on the internet.
When they get licensed, they disappear from the sites, but I can't find it anywhere else to buy.

That is complete and utter bull-hockey. I don't mind paying for the book, or even paying for a digital download of the damn thing, as long as it is there.

I am still upset that they licensed the Light Novel SoA, and I can't find it anywhere to buy so I can read those books again.

It could take YEARS, or never for such a thing to come around again. I find that as utter carp...

This is the same thing with foreign movies. They license those damn things and don't release it in the US any way, so where's the profit in that other than screwing people from seeing or experiencing stuff.

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
3. Audiences love mindless filler rehashes and reboots ...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jan 2014

though in Hollywood's defense, I've seen some pretty decent films in the last several months. 12 Years a Slave, Philomena, Captain Philips, Gravity, Frozen, Rush … original stuff, well thought-out and produced.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
4. This last year saw more decent mainstream films than normal
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014

I saw 12 years a slave, and gravity I didn't get a chance to see the others. I guess I get annoyed at mainstream Hollywood cinema because I noticed looking back at my Netflix habits from the last year most of the movies that interested me were either independent American films or European films.

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
8. Major studios are owned by the likes of Sony, FOX News, Time-Warner, Viacom, Comcast...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

publicly-owned. It's all about what movies will bring in the most revenue.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
5. I'll care about Hollywood and Piracy when they start making more
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014

Movies and TV series right here in the US, that provide good paying jobs for Union Members of the various American Crafts / Services. Instead of making so many productions everywhere BUT America. And yes I mean Canada, too. I'm still pissed they made Smallville in Canada.

That bullshit about piracy costing American Jobs is the biggest load of shit ever. What is costing American jobs is the the decisions made in the offices of American movie companies, by American movie executives to export those American jobs overseas.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
6. Couldn't agree more. I know my niece watches this show supernatural
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jan 2014

and it's all filmed in Canada but it's supposed to take place on the US

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
17. As a Canadian...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jan 2014

We get a kick out of watching a lot of American TV only to see familiar landmarks just down the street advertised as New York or whatever. A lot of the popular Sci-Fi shows have been filmed here in Vancouver. Don't know why it's all sci-Fi here. XFiles, smallville, supernatural, stargate (all 3) and quite a few others were all filmed here.

I can understand the anger down south. However the flip side of the coin is that the people given the jobs elsewhere are good hard working people too. The film industry here in Canada supports a lot of people and their families and it would be a big blow to the local economies here if the jobs went back south. It's kind of a tough one IMHO. But I do understand the anger.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
9. Plenty of excellent films this year. I don't know what you're talking about.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jan 2014

Just a few:

Philomena
Capt. Phillips
Her
12 Years a slave
Inside LLewyn Davis
The Wolf of Wall Street
American Hustle
All is Lost
Nebraska
Blue Jasmine
Dallas Buyers Club

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
10. What really should happen is that they should lower the costs of going to the theaters
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jan 2014

Going out to the theaters is a ridiculously expensive and the overall experience of doing so does not match the cost.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
11. Disagree. I love the experience of going to the movies.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jan 2014

and the theatres do need to make money, you know.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
12. I kinda agree.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jan 2014

However, I think they really should change their business model a little.

Like, set one or two rooms for dollar movies using older titles, for their slow hours, or during the regular week.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
13. Not a bad idea, but
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jan 2014

they would then have to police it to make sure those going to the cheap movies don't slip into the regular ones afterward.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
15. Oh come on... They could just cordon off some of that area.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jan 2014

I can't do that, slipping in to the regular ones.
I'd feel awful.

Either way, they make a lot of their money from the concession stands.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
21. You're right.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

I was just thinking it might be a good idea for them for their slower periods.
If only to bring people to the theater, and offer better damn food.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
16. The sad truth of it is....
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jan 2014

Despite how risky the business is they make a lot of money putting out that mindless filler. In fact that mindless filler is what they can bank on making money with. Marketing 101, market to the lowest common denominator.

The utter shit that is released speaks as much to how low that lowest common denominator is as much as anything else. They will stop making the shit when people stop shelling out money for it, people haven't stopped. It's a sad commentary on how shallow we have let our society become.

Playing devils advocate for a second I'll have to admit some of the schlock IS mindlessly entertaining enough that I don't mind watching. But I wish like you it was the 10% not the 90%.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
19. I watch the mindless stuff sometimes and it can be amusing
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:45 PM
Jan 2014

The problem is when the cost of going to the movies starts costing $40-$60 I want a real piece of cinematic art

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
23. Well, looking at the Vancouver movie listing, I see maybe seven of the movies
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014

that will likely be up for Best Picture this year.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
24. Hollywood puts out some 600+ films a year though...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jan 2014

And the best films are often released around this time to capture the oscar buzz. The percentage of that 600 that are good is very low.

I'm not saying that every film has to be good, far from it. I can happily watch crappy films, even shockingly bad ones. The ones that bother me though are the ones that were assembled by board room execs to hit all the lowest common denominator "buttons". You could retread the script from just about any of these films, turn the crank and pop out another one. This type there are far too many of. I'd rather watch sharknado than a lot of the turnkey action flicks and romcoms that fill the theatres most other times of the year.

I agree with you on the films in the theatre right now, many of those are good.

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