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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWeekend music to chill by ...All the Things You Are Edition!!
The legendary Joe Pass (1929-1994) playing an old standard.
Whoever said we need more jazz in the Lounge, you got it!!
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)It's kind of the tune and chord changes a jazz musician must learn to solo on and master to get to the next level, like Coltrane's Giant Steps. Joe Pass was one of the true giants of jazz, so tasteful and technically brilliant. Here's a young gypsy style jazz guitarist (Adrien Moignard) soloing over the same All The Things You Are done in swing time, sounding really good too and sounding like a fucking monster guitarist, but only playing single lines in the Gypsy jazz style. The thing about Joe Pass and the guitarists I really admire is that he played the guitar as a complete instrument, with accompaniment and solo lines (Pass could play with blazing speed and precision but didn't do it just to impress and wanted to be above all melodic and beautiful). Especially later in his career, Pass approached the guitar like a piano, playing bass lines, chords, and solo lines and using his separate fingers as well as a pick. Guys like Ted Green, Lenny Breau, and George van Epps are worth listening to for the completeness and richness of their playing. In fact Pass often appeared on stage all alone with his guitar and made it sound perfectly full, which is something the single line guitar monsters simply can't do.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)You do know that classical and jazz are the only complex forms of music.
This means that bored classical players go into jazz.
Example:Jean Luc Ponty, winner of Grand Prix at the Paris Conservatory.
Went into Jazz Violin.
I will have to look those guys up. My current fave is Pat Methane (Pat Metheny) who got most of his licks from Wes Montgomery.
I've been following Pat since he was a pup hanging out with the Gary Burton Quintet in the 70s. Got some of his vinyls.
I also like Lyle Mays (Pat's keyboard player) and Chick Corea.
THANKS AGAIN!!!
Excuse me, some bored folks with classical chops used to go into progressive rock, like EL&P and Rick Wakeman. That was more complex & interesting than your average 70s rock, and Rolling Stone called the guys with classical chops "pretentious". But that's critics for ya.
If you can perform The Great Gate of Kiev by Rimsky-Korsakov, and get away with it, as rock, more power to ya!!!
A small sample of the awesomeness that is Rick Wakeman:
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Metheny, Montgomery, Ponty, Wakeman, Corea, all fantastic musicians. Pianist Andre Previn also comes to mind as a musician who is also both a classical virtuoso and a fantastic jazz musician. He's won four Oscars for movie soundtracks, ten Grammys, was Principal Conductor of the London Symphony Orchestra, the Royal Philharmonic, and the Los Angeles Symphony, and has extensively composed in both the classical and jazz fields. A lot of people just know him as the ex husband of actress Mia Farrow but he's incredibly versatile (his last marriage was to famous German classical violinist Anne Sophie Mutter and he wrote a violin concerto for her). I love the album he did with Joe Pass on guitar and the great Ray Brown on bass. The guy has some kind of jazz chops on the piano.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)This was 1966-68 when he was conducting the Houston symphony.
Lots of conservative oil money. The old ladies on the board were scandalized when he was chasing Mia when she was not yet divorced from Frank Sinatra.
They thought Mahler and Carl Nielsen were too radical to play. So he hits them with the Pendrecki Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima. The celli sound like droning B-17s. That freaked them out.
so they fired him for skirt chasing and playing 20th century classical music, and he moved up in the symphonic world going to Pittsburgh!!
Sir John Barbirolli was conductor emeritus. He started out as a cello player in Britain. I think he was a mentor to a certain brilliant cellist
and that is why I was lucky enough to see the transcendent Jacqueline du Pre perform the Elgar Cello Concerto during her tragically brief concert career.
Andre did put on some jazz concerts in Houston. I met him and Dory Previn at a smaller venue.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)DFW
(54,445 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I saw Leo Kottke twice in the 1970s.
He's amazing.
didn't know he was a disciple of Joe Pass.
The liner notes are hilarious on his first album- the B&W cover w/Armadillo, on the Takoma Park label.
"his voice sounds like geese farts on a muggy day" -