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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 10:25 AM Feb 2012

Greatest FEMALE villians

Sorry, that short list in the other thread had some good names but it was devoid of some of the best female villians in movie history.

My list includes:

Alex Forrest - "Fatal Attraction" (Glenn Close)
Marquise de Merteuil - "Dangerous Liasions" (again Glenn Close)
Catwoman - "Batman Returns" (Michelle Pfieffer)
Catherine Trammell - "Basic Instinct" (Sharon Stone).

Who are your favorites?

Edit Note: Best Remake of a great villian - Kathryn Merteuil - "Cruel Intentions" (Sarah Michelle Geller, this was a modern take of Dangrous Liasions)

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Greatest FEMALE villians (Original Post) LynneSin Feb 2012 OP
Bette Davis in "...Baby Jane". Graybeard Feb 2012 #1
"We have rats in the cellar, Blanche" Carolina Feb 2012 #69
Ann Coulter HopeHoops Feb 2012 #2
Villain, yes. Favorite? Never. Bake Feb 2012 #7
Well it is forbidden to mention his status, but either way he's a disgusting pig. HopeHoops Feb 2012 #8
I think that in the female villain category Bake Feb 2012 #9
How about Laura Dern as Katherine Harris in "Recount" LynneSin Feb 2012 #26
Never saw it. Is it good? HopeHoops Feb 2012 #29
Faye Dunaway as The Countess De Winter nt MrScorpio Feb 2012 #3
I agree Faye Dunaway, but as Joan Crawford in Mommie Dearest Kennah Apr 2012 #97
The wicked pipi_k Feb 2012 #4
Gah! rrneck Feb 2012 #5
But Rhoda is such a polite little girl! Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #15
"witch of the West - "Wizard of Oz--AKA Elvira Gulch in Kansas. nt raccoon Feb 2012 #19
Scary Mary... hunter Mar 2012 #85
Elle Driver in "Kill Bill," played by Daryl Hannah racaulk Feb 2012 #6
She was awesome in that role. Wait Wut Feb 2012 #25
Callisto from Xena was a real badass. Swede Feb 2012 #10
That's easy - my ex-wife! mysuzuki2 Feb 2012 #11
Dolores Umbridge hifiguy Feb 2012 #12
My first thought. Umbridge LOVED causing pain. Lucinda Feb 2012 #27
A rucking fepublican if there ever was one siligut Feb 2012 #28
Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix? gratuitous Feb 2012 #30
Now that you mention it... I think that's mine as well. Neoma Feb 2012 #49
She is most HR Managers I've met OmahaBlueDog Feb 2012 #65
That woman.... Broken_Hero Mar 2012 #83
that role was marvelously cast fizzgig Mar 2012 #90
Here's another great one from "But I'm a Cheerleader" LynneSin Feb 2012 #13
Angela Lansbury as Eleanor Iselin in the Manchurian Candidate is #1 Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #14
+1000 Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #32
This. ceile Feb 2012 #35
Second that. n/t sarge43 Feb 2012 #38
Yes definately annonymous Feb 2012 #54
..or as Kay Thorndyke in "State of the Union" OmahaBlueDog Feb 2012 #64
Oh yes, I saw that movie for the second time on a college campus Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #93
Nurse Ratched geardaddy Feb 2012 #16
Louise Fletcher is playing Peg Gallagher in Shameless now siligut Feb 2012 #17
She's awesome. rbnyc Feb 2012 #51
Frank does the most despicable things . . . siligut Feb 2012 #55
Cruella DeVille in 101 DALMATIANS. nt raccoon Feb 2012 #18
My choice too! femmocrat Feb 2012 #53
Theresa Russell--Black Widow RiffRandell Feb 2012 #20
Gogo Yubari from Kill Bill Vol 1 Taverner Feb 2012 #21
I forgot--Charlize Theron in Monster. RiffRandell Feb 2012 #22
No, it was Karla Faye Tucker TheCentepedeShoes Feb 2012 #46
Oh yeah..thanks for the reminder! RiffRandell Feb 2012 #56
Hexidecimal Ohio Joe Feb 2012 #23
From ReBoot? sakabatou Apr 2012 #92
Yup Ohio Joe Apr 2012 #100
Too bad it wasn't finished sakabatou Apr 2012 #101
Lena Olin as "Mona Demarcov" in 'Romeo is Bleeding' skypilot Feb 2012 #24
Kathleen Turner in Body Heat gratuitous Feb 2012 #31
She was excellent in that role..... AnneD Feb 2012 #40
Holly Wood - Cool World WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2012 #33
Holy cow! LeftOfSelf-Centered Feb 2012 #39
I saw it. It sucked. Archae Mar 2012 #84
Granny Dolarhyde in Red Dragon. ohiosmith Feb 2012 #34
Mrs. Danvers "Rebecca" ceile Feb 2012 #36
GO GO YUBARI (Chiaki Kuriyama) AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #37
Barbara Steele: Black Sunday, and many others. dimbear Feb 2012 #41
Catherine---"East of Eden" blue neen Feb 2012 #42
I just re-read the book OmahaBlueDog Feb 2012 #66
Rhoda Penmark blue neen Feb 2012 #43
+1 and a basket of kisses Matariki Feb 2012 #48
Kathy Bates, Misery & Lotte Lenya, From Russia with Love Auggie Feb 2012 #44
Asami Yamazaki from Audition alphafemale Feb 2012 #45
Helena Versey TheCentepedeShoes Feb 2012 #47
I'm rather enjoying Once Upon A Time Matariki Feb 2012 #50
I want to see her get her comeuppance so bad. siligut Feb 2012 #57
That's what makes a great villian Matariki Feb 2012 #58
I haven't figured it out siligut Feb 2012 #62
And yet, evil as she is... TreasonousBastard Apr 2012 #96
Mariko (Number 35) sakabatou Feb 2012 #52
Selina Kyle. Talia al-Ghul. Pamela Isely, Amanda Waller... Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #59
I can't wait to see Catwoman in Dark Knight Rises. Initech Feb 2012 #71
Oh obviously the film I saw most recently.. LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #60
Angela Lansbury in "Manchurian Candidate" nytemare Feb 2012 #61
Sian Phillips Doc_Technical Feb 2012 #63
Ack! Just posted this below. Missed this. dogknob Feb 2012 #79
Natasha..... WCGreen Feb 2012 #67
Natasha Fatale WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2012 #68
Jessica Walter plays somewhat the same character in Archer siligut Feb 2012 #74
That is one of my favs right now.... WCGreen Feb 2012 #77
You beezy bodies have beezyed your last body! Graybeard Feb 2012 #70
Glory from Buffy the Vampire Slayer NewJeffCT Feb 2012 #72
the Borg Queen NewJeffCT Feb 2012 #73
Cruella Deville Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #75
Skade YankeyMCC Feb 2012 #76
Siān Phillips as Livia Augusta in "I, Claudius" dogknob Feb 2012 #78
Hmmmm JonLP24 Feb 2012 #80
Livia Soprano siligut Feb 2012 #81
Evil incarnate. "The Sopranos" was never the same without her. kwassa Apr 2012 #91
And the shy, awkward, dowdy girlfriend in the TV production of Marty in the 1950s Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #94
Wow. I never would have made the connection. kwassa Apr 2012 #102
Did anyone mention Louise Fletcher as Nurse Rachet? Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #82
thisn' YOWSA alphafemale Mar 2012 #86
Veda Pierce Tom Ripley Mar 2012 #87
Mercury Lampe Yukari Yakumo Mar 2012 #88
Mary Astor in the Maltese Falcon....n/t unkachuck Mar 2012 #89
my ex-wife Puzzledtraveller Apr 2012 #95
Anne Ramsey as Momma in Throw Momma From The Train Kennah Apr 2012 #98
Technically she was part of the protagonists ... Kennah Apr 2012 #99
Linda Fiorentino in The Last Seduction CottonBear Apr 2012 #103

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
1. Bette Davis in "...Baby Jane".
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 10:34 AM
Feb 2012

Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Also Tallulah Bankhead in Die, Die, My Darling.

Anjelica Huston in The Witches and Ever After.

(edit: corrected spelling of the great Anjelica's

last name.)

Bake

(21,977 posts)
9. I think that in the female villain category
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:04 PM
Feb 2012

There has to be an element of, oh ... some redeeming quality ... like, e.g., "I'd hit it" ... think Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman (hell, **any** of the Catwomen!).

Coulter? Not in a gazillion years. Not with your .... or anybody's ... you get my drift.



Bake

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
4. The wicked
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 11:25 AM
Feb 2012

witches of the East and West - "Wizard of Oz"

Rhonda Penmark - "The Bad Seed"

The two maiden aunts in "Arsenic and Old Lace"

Ursa - "Superman 2"

And last, but not least...

Mary Poppins, who came to live as a nanny to the Banks children, and ended up giving them "medicine" that made them see singing, dancing animals, flying people, and all sorts of other odd things. Once they became addicted, she abandoned them...



Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
25. She was awesome in that role.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:37 PM
Feb 2012

I was completely surprised. Never thought she could pull of evil as well as she did.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
28. A rucking fepublican if there ever was one
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 02:19 PM
Feb 2012

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"‎It is the view of the Ministry that a theoretical knowledge will be sufficient to get you through your examinations, which after all, is what school is all about."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
30. Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix?
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 03:14 PM
Feb 2012

Although she impressed me as more psychopathically sadistic than evil, she still presented a pretty good villain.

Broken_Hero

(59,305 posts)
83. That woman....
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:31 AM
Mar 2012

Rowling wrote Umbridge so well, that she is the only character that I cussed out...literally. Reading the OOTP I recall cussing Umbridge out so many times...I never felt such a vile, dislike of any character...before coming across Dolores.

And to credit the movie, the casted that role, very well....

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
13. Here's another great one from "But I'm a Cheerleader"
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:20 PM
Feb 2012

Mary Brown, the teacher at the True Directions school where they straighten out gay & lesbian teenagers. Cathy Moriarty was just pure evil even though she thought she could turn these kids around.

The movie was campy as hell but good narrative.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
32. +1000
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
Feb 2012

I saw that the original novel actually had an incest sex scene which the movie could only make allusions to for obvious reasons

annonymous

(882 posts)
54. Yes definately
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:09 PM
Feb 2012

Runners up include Kathy Bates in Misery, Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest and Delores Umbridge and Bellatrix LeStrange from the Harry Potter movies.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
64. ..or as Kay Thorndyke in "State of the Union"
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:22 PM
Feb 2012

Her character is Rupert Murdoch, before there was Rupert Murdoch.

I think every kid who's grown up knowing Angela Lansbury as Mrs Potts, or Jessica Fletcher, or Miss Price (Bedknobs & Broomsticks) should see "State of the Union", "The Manchurian Candidate", and "The Harvey Girls." (and the Broadway "Sweeney Todd" if you can get hold of it).

She's an incredibly underrated actress.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
93. Oh yes, I saw that movie for the second time on a college campus
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:32 AM
Apr 2012

during the time when Murder She Wrote was on TV. The students knew Angela Lansbury only as Jessica Fletcher, not as Eleanor Iselin or as the maid in Gaslight, and there were cries of astonishment when she appeared for the first time.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
17. Louise Fletcher is playing Peg Gallagher in Shameless now
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Feb 2012

She is just the most awful character in it too.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
55. Frank does the most despicable things . . .
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:40 PM
Feb 2012

The show is truly shameless and I can't stop laughing.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
22. I forgot--Charlize Theron in Monster.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:07 PM
Feb 2012

She was great portraying Aileen Wuornos--I think Bush mocked her before she was executed.

TheCentepedeShoes

(3,522 posts)
46. No, it was Karla Faye Tucker
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:19 PM
Feb 2012

he mocked, on death row in TX when he was governor...er...asshole in chief
Aileen Wuornos was in Florida, I lived there when she was in action
Charlize Theron did a fantastic job in the movie

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 03:17 PM
Feb 2012

Violates one of my personal standards in that you don't know she's a villain until later, but her cunning, manipulative murder/frame up plan was ingenious and diabolical. I wonder if a sequel could now be written, using the same principals? It probably wouldn't be near as good as the movie, and like The Two Jakes and Chinatown would only serve to be forgotten.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
40. She was excellent in that role.....
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 06:02 PM
Feb 2012

best ever. And you can add stealing every scene she was in to her list of crimes. She was a moving violation against the laws of nature and gravity. Daymuh she was hot. The best lines of dialogue too. William Hurt didn't stand a chance and neither did Richard Crenna.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
33. Holly Wood - Cool World
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 03:31 PM
Feb 2012

The Space Vampire in Lifeforce
The Borg Queen - Star Trek: First Contact
The Queen Alien


Oo! Oo! Morgana - Excalibur

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
41. Barbara Steele: Black Sunday, and many others.
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 06:26 PM
Feb 2012

Quite a talented actress, but she was gifted with a physical type especially suited to evil. An interesting part of psychology, BTW.

blue neen

(12,335 posts)
42. Catherine---"East of Eden"
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
Feb 2012

Jane Seymour played this character to perfection in the mini-series version.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
66. I just re-read the book
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:26 PM
Feb 2012

Jo Van Fleet did a pretty good job playing her in the Kazan version with James Dean and Raymond Massey.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
45. Asami Yamazaki from Audition
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 07:32 PM
Feb 2012

I've never seen anything half as disturbing as the last 15 minutes or so of this movie.

TheCentepedeShoes

(3,522 posts)
47. Helena Versey
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 09:29 PM
Feb 2012

played by Diana Rigg in a PBS mini series called Mother Love around 1990
The ultimate interfering ex wife

Had to look her name up on IMDB

siligut

(12,272 posts)
57. I want to see her get her comeuppance so bad.
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:44 PM
Feb 2012

She exists to make people miserable. Do you know who her lost love is? The one she holds against Snow White?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
58. That's what makes a great villian
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:22 PM
Feb 2012

you *really* want to see them get what they deserve.

Nope, I don't know. I'm a few weeks behind watching the show. Is that something you've figured out, or...?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
62. I haven't figured it out
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:39 AM
Feb 2012

I do gather that in reality, Snow White had nothing to do with it. That the queen is psychotic and just blames Snow White because she can't admit error. I wonder if it was actually Snow White's father, but that hasn't been made clear.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
59. Selina Kyle. Talia al-Ghul. Pamela Isely, Amanda Waller...
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
Feb 2012

But the worst/best of them all was British woman named Lady Elaine Marsh-Morton. Bad temperament, sure, but gracious what a sense of class she brought to the game. I do wonder what happened to her, sometimes.

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
60. Oh obviously the film I saw most recently..
Fri Feb 24, 2012, 07:35 PM
Feb 2012

'The Iron Lady', That character, what's her name, played by Meryl Streep. Now SHE was a scary villain!

siligut

(12,272 posts)
74. Jessica Walter plays somewhat the same character in Archer
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:48 AM
Feb 2012

Mallory Archer runs a mom and son agency similar to the CIA . . . only really rinky-dink.
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Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
70. You beezy bodies have beezyed your last body!
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:49 AM
Feb 2012

Ah, the good old days when all we had

to worry about were Russian spies. (sigh)

YankeyMCC

(8,401 posts)
76. Skade
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:16 PM
Feb 2012

She is a character from Alastair Reynolds 'Revelation Space' series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alastair_Reynolds#Revelation_Space

One scary person to be on the wrong side of. I mean you'd think cutting her in half would slow her down at least...not much it turns out

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
78. Siān Phillips as Livia Augusta in "I, Claudius"
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:09 PM
Feb 2012

After a trail of bodies, she's still afraid of going to Hell

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
80. Hmmmm
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
Feb 2012

The only one I can think of that hasn't already been mentioned. Erika Christensen in Swimfan. I'm very tempted to say Sarah Michelle Gellar in Cruel Intentions, even though I think she played a good villian, I feel like I'm leaving out an obvious choice.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
91. Evil incarnate. "The Sopranos" was never the same without her.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:57 PM
Apr 2012

She is the key to the greatness of the first season, never to be equaled again.

played by the great Nancy Marchand, who also played the aristocratic publisher Margaret Pynchon on "Lou Grant" an almost opposite role. What a range she had!

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
94. And the shy, awkward, dowdy girlfriend in the TV production of Marty in the 1950s
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:34 AM
Apr 2012

She had a long career.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
102. Wow. I never would have made the connection.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:17 PM
Apr 2012

She is a rare example of a true actress that can disappear into a broad range of roles.

Kennah

(14,349 posts)
99. Technically she was part of the protagonists ...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:02 AM
Apr 2012

... but Ruth Gordon as Ma in Every Which Way But Loose.

Just a helpless old lady.

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