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Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 11:41 PM Jul 2014

For the 2nd time...I find myself gathering the bones of local pioneers that are discarded or adrift

And at least I have the time/inclination to keep at it.

My main hobby-for exercise to help a serious sleep disorder-is Metal detecting.

A few years back I saw some piles of dirt/sod laying in a roadside field. County tears out soil from parks all the time-figured I'd take a poke with my detector.

I started finding what looked like bath towel handles-from the most gaudy era ever. Scrollwork & plated-I had no clue. Found a few of similar handles. Then I found a plaque with writing on it. I didn't slow down to clean it so it was legible. I just kept going to the next pile and then it all became kinda obvious.

A femur...

A skull cap..

Backbone-mostly intact.

Dentures-more than one set...

Freak out! kinda sorta but I did call the local police.

Turns out the county had discarded what they thought was empty soil from a pioneer graveyard. I had a story in the Oregonian & was told the piles had been cleaned up that day!...

That was a lie of course. The mounds were all intact. I guess they just too the visable stuff & called it a day. Later they fenced it off.
In the last 2 weeks they had goats clearing the heavy berry brush. Last 3 days they had crews taking it down to bare soil.

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I had seen the activity at the site passing by on my way to the local riverside beach. I had detected this beach many times & knew there was an old gravesite in the hillside-under a parking area. It was eroding as a hillside on a river will do. And I had found similar coffin parts-very ornate-coming from the hillside & directly below it. That was over 2 years ago.

3 days ago it had just rained hard & the river was low. Time to see what nature has brought closer.

Directly below the hillside on the beach-there were bones. Rib & vertebrae-very small. I gathered them knowing what they likely were. I did a google search & the majority were easily identifiable as human remains. I wrapped them in brown paper & twine. Inserted a rose from my Wife's garden & buried it directly above its original location in a tree grove. I e-mailed the county as to the situation. I just hoped they could preserve the remains during an upcoming renovation for the area. Maybe get some local anthropology students involved.

The next day driving by I recognized a county supervisor at the original site where the dirt mounds had been left & crews were cleaning. I ended up showing him the exact location & dug up the remains I found so they could go to the Pioneer Cemetary.

Seems after all they decided to do a proper job on the original site.

And at least I have advised them of the other unmarked cemetery. I'd estimate this one to be 1900's by the ornamentation I found at the hillside.

And for the last 3 days-I have found more. All appear to be the same individual-a young juvenile or infant. It is sloughing off directly below the area I found the coffin parts.

The supervisor also gave me a location where further "historic" remains can be placed in honor. And I really admire those that established this area. I have been digging up pieces of the lives they led for years now-and they have my utmost respect.

In fact I feel blessed I can do this for them.

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For the 2nd time...I find myself gathering the bones of local pioneers that are discarded or adrift (Original Post) Boxerfan Jul 2014 OP
Good for you... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2014 #1
Thanks... Boxerfan Jul 2014 #2
You might see if there is a local historical association or DAR chapter csziggy Jul 2014 #3
Such an important find, Boxerfan mia Jul 2014 #4
I was like wait.. What? FreedRadical Jul 2014 #5
actually parking lots often preserve sites better than other alternatives Kali Jul 2014 #7
Just got back from my daily routine... Boxerfan Jul 2014 #6
Since I work in UC Berkeley lunatica Jul 2014 #8

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
2. Thanks...
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jul 2014

And I also forgot to mention another clue/ aspect.

The handles at the 1st site were coffin handles for pawel bearers. Large like towel handles.

The ones at the hillside on the river were small-like drawer pulls.

That just made sense after the last few days.

Small child-small coffin-small handles.

Cheers!

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
3. You might see if there is a local historical association or DAR chapter
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:57 AM
Jul 2014

At one time, the DAR had projects in many areas to map all local cemeteries and where possible record the important information about the burials. If there is not an active chapter near you, maybe there is a historical association that would be interested in helping the county record the locations and keep the various agencies advised of them.

As a kid, I got to visit a lot of graveyards in west central Alabama as my mother traced her genealogy. One family graveyard was pretty decrepit back then, overgrown with broken and toppled headstones. A distant cousin wrote a book about the ancestor who had originally purchased the land from the government and spent part of the proceeds of the book on fixing up the cemetery. He also traced relatives who were buried there but that no tombstones and made a monument with their vitals.

The entrance now looks like this:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2303977&CScntry=4&CSst=3&CScnty=78&CSsr=41&

mia

(8,363 posts)
4. Such an important find, Boxerfan
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:22 AM
Jul 2014

Contact the Society for Historic Archaeology before the developers take over.
http://www.sha.org/.

Here's some good information about metal collecting and historic archaeology.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/diggers/articles/metal-detecting-101/


Thank you for sharing this information!


FreedRadical

(518 posts)
5. I was like wait.. What?
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 03:02 AM
Jul 2014

I hadn't heard about this. Sure enough, there it is. I won't add the link because it gives your name, but I will be telling my friend about this. The way the treat the old cemeteries around here is shameful. I am sure you have heard about the old cemetery on Stark St. Put a parking lot and buildings on the old unmarked Chinese emigrant section from the 1800s.

Kali

(55,027 posts)
7. actually parking lots often preserve sites better than other alternatives
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jul 2014

obviously they don't do much for education or public understanding, but they beat the hell out of amateur "collectors" disturbing the site and stealing artifacts.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
6. Just got back from my daily routine...
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jul 2014

This time no detector-it is a technical no no anyhow but lets just say because I do a trash patrol-glass fish hooks & line etc... I have been given a wink & a request not to do it if a Supervisors truck is in the lot.

I wanted to see if anything else had "washed up". Frankly I wasn't sure about the "hydraulics" of how the remains were getting on the beach from the hillside. Nothing really & glad about that.

Using my eyes I found the answer. I saw a large segment of soil slumped off. This is pretty much everywhere on the beach but this made a plateau-and the soil appeared to have come down in a whole.

At the base of this layer I saw some rust marks in the soil & then the likely answer. There was a old rotted board-2" thick or better-laying horizontally imbedded in the soil. Just a edge poking out.

This is directly above-by a few yards-where I found the main group of bones. So I can now point directly to the location as in a 4 square yard area where anything else is likely to be. I doubt they will do anything in time to recover what may be left. It took years to get to the large piles.

If I find more of course at least I know where they will be respected.

So that's the latest. And it may come as no surprise-my childhood idol was Louis B. Leaky. I even rode my bicycle to the Foothill College auditorium-many miles-to see him speak. After the lecture I went on stage & got his autograph. Sadly my Mother moved when I was away with my Father & everything I had was "lost". TMI I know...

Cheers!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. Since I work in UC Berkeley
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jul 2014

I would like to suggest that you contact colleges and universities, and not just the ones in the immediate area.

UC Berkeley is considered a world class research university. It's actually better known for that than it is for academia. My job there is to process reimbursements for all the research departments. It's quite common for Faculty and Graduate Students to travel into the wilder and least known location on the planet for their research. They travel into the hills with mules and local agents to visit little known tribes and deep into the Indonesian jungles to research the flora and fauna, visiting tribes that have rejected western civilization and all it's trapping entirely. I remember one Faculty who went to Serbia/Croatia after the war and dug up mass pits of murdered people.

It might be worth a try. Maybe a lot of solid history can be exposed.

Maybe you've already done this.

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