Is Walking Dead good again or is it just more ponderous bullshit?

[ReverendDeuce]

First season was awesome. But we almost gave up during the "talking at the farm" season, struggled through "howdy guv'nah" season, and finally had enough of the "who can paint themselves in a corner faster" prison season about midway. Last season we didn't even bother, shutting the first episode off midway.

I don't like my zombie show to be paced like a douche commercial.

Has the show returned to its first season glory or is it just more talky-in-the-woods horseshit?

[LonePirate]

1. The first episode this season was all action and violence. The second episode airs Sunday.

[ReverendDeuce]

2. Okay...

So then you're saying it's sort of returned to its roots as a zombie show instead of a soap opera? I might give it a try...

[LonePirate]

3. It returned to its roots for one episode. Who knows about the remaining 15 in this season.

[dr.strangelove]

4. I don't think it was ever "not good" but this season is only one episode old

so it is impossible to say if it will meet your standard of all action all the time.

For me, that "talking at the farm" season was by far th ebest since it introduced us to the characters who I love the most, mainly Maggie and Glen, and badass Carl. Plus it saw the development of Rick as a leader and the fall of Shane, which was an incredible story. I'm not much for Michael Bay films, I like to know the people I am watching try to avoid imminent death, otherwise, there is really no thrill in it for me. The first episode was very much a Michael Bay film, with very little by way of character development and lots of explosions, shootings, zombie and living human deaths and running. I expect you would have loved it. I would have rather they spent a bit more time on why we should hate the Termites, instead of just , they eat people and are therefore evil. But they decided to go with the big explosions and give us two short flashbacks as the only back story. I am hoping the next move will be more story telling and less big bangs and blood splatters.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the fighting and the incredible work they put into the death scenes. I love the violence of the show and the world that requires it, but I don;t really care for killings without the passion. I want to know why the violence is happening. Good storytelling does that.

[ReverendDeuce]

7. Okay, let me stop you at the first sentence...

Who said anything about "all action all the time"? I certainly didn't.

Because I found the glacial pace and what I felt was meandering and trite dialogue of the second season to be a detractor, you try and label me as a Michael Bay fan in a pejorative fashion? Really? Really???

"The first episode was very much a Michael Bay film ... I expect you would have loved it."

What a self-righteous response. LOL!

[dr.strangelove]

10. I am not sure association your comments with Michael Bay is self-righteous

but regardless, I hope you do watch it and enjoy it as much as I do. The ratings are through the roof, so the show is not going anywhere. Give it a shot. I am sorry if I offended you. I think descriptives like "glacial pace" and "meandering and trite dialogue" show your feelings. I think I hit the nail on the head, but it makes no difference to me. I wish you the best and I hope you find more shows that you enjoy. Netflix and Hulu Plus have a great variety of shows available. I find a lot there that I like.

[Threedifferentones]

14. Your OP was a bit pejorative regarding shows that this other poster really likes.

Tit for tat IMO.

[ReverendDeuce]

15. Observations about a TV show in the "lounge" is not a personal insult...

Tit-for-tat denied.

[Mike Daniels]

9. Speaking of the season at the farm....did have a question regarding something I saw upon rewatching

Shortly after arriving on the farm Rick mentions that they were looking for Sophia (describing her general appearance). At that point I noticed that Maggie gives Herschel a certain look and Herschel discretely shakes his head "no" in response.

After the cleansing of the barn, Maggie and Herschel claimed innocence of ever knowing that Sophia was already "dead" (stating that Otis rounded up the walkers). However, upon rewatching that scene (I didn't catch the silent looks when the episode first aired) I have wondered if they were well aware that Sophia was in their custody but Herschel simply didn't want to reveal that he was keeping walkers alive in the barn.

Just seeing if anyone remembers the moment and their thoughts on that possibility.

[dr.strangelove]

11. I think that was about killing walkers, not about Sophia

When they were talking about it, Shane was discussing what to do when they found her, that he wanted to make sure the group knew they had to kill her if she turned. Rick agreed saying they would do what had to be done.

Maggie and Herschel both felt at this point that walkers should nto be killed, but stored in the barn until a cure was found for them. They knew that their mother/wife and other friends and family were in the barn. Maggie even said about Carol "her mother (sophia's), what do you tell her?" She then looked at Herschel.

I truly do not think they knew she was in the barn, just that Herschel's family was keeping walkers alive so they could be cured. He knew Shane would go and kill them all. He was trying to avoid that.

[Iggo]

5. Don't watch it. You won't like it.

[d_r]

6. in the last two episodes

it *kind* of got back to a story line from the comic books, but they changed how they played the story out quite a bit. It was predictable, but I thought they did a good job with it. It looks like next week's episode is based on a comics episode also.

I don't really like the zombie soap opera stuff either.

[NewJeffCT]

8. well, it wasn't that predictable, I thought

if it was like previous seasons, the events of the other night's episodes would have taken place over the entire first half of the season.

[d_r]

12. Yeah you are right

I meant the big shocker was predictable but I agree with you 100% about the pacing of the episode.

[GOLGO 13]

13. First episode this season was wall to wall staby-staby and shoot em in the back.

- This is a sample of Rick's dialouge on Sundays opener
"...its got a red handle on it. It's the one I'm gonna kill you with",
"if you run into any one of these people - kill them cuz they sure will kill you",
"they don't get to live"

- People got bashed in the back of the head with a baseball bat, then their throats were slit,

- Something about a organized group of cannibals,

- Several people were just shot in the back or leg and left for the walkers to finish off,

I think every single body in Rick's group killed several somethings at the very least. Brisk pace shall we say?