The Walking Dead 5.7 "Crossed" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

The group is spread thin with some members holding down the church and the others on a rescue mission.

[NewJeffCT]

1. Interesting deleted scene from Season 2

SPOILERS below:

I guess Rick & company went to find the guys from the Vatos episode in season 1, and came upon this... so, no chance of Rick going back to them for backup.

[NewJeffCT]

3. kick

Slow day...

[NewJeffCT]

2. midseason finale spoiler

Norm Reedus supposedly cried for an hour after filming it -

I'm guessing that means Carol and/or Beth die?

http://comicbook.com/2014/11/21/the-walking-dead-s-mid-season-finale-made-norman-reedus-cry-for-/

[Baitball Blogger]

4. Damn. Noooooo!

Carol dies and that's a deal breaker.

[NewJeffCT]

8. It would be odd timing for both Carol or Beth

I can see Reedus being upset over Emily Kinney leaving the show, but not an hour's worth of tears for her.

That said, Reedus has exaggerated in the past as well - I remember him hyping up the season 3 finale (Welcome to the Tombs) as some sort of major epic ending to the season, but it wasn't quite that good... I thought the midseason finale of season 4 where the Governor finally died (and took Hershel with him) was much better than the season 3 finale where they chased him off.

[rug]

5. One can hope it's for Carl.

[NewJeffCT]

6. somehow

I doubt Carl is going to die any time soon.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. It's either Carol or Beth.

Though they say that Beth was on set for several days for the filming of the finale, people said not to count out Carol.

[NewJeffCT]

9. The info on Reedus was from after the filming of the midseason finale

so, it may be we have to wait till next week to find out.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

10. No-one's going to die tonight,

it'll be a bridge episode to next weeks, maybe someone else will be captured tonight, perhaps were being set up for a rescue mission for a rescue mission gone bad, since Glen knows Atlanta, and its not like his group is doing much at the moment. (just spitballin' here)

[NewJeffCT]

11. just about to kick off

happy to be home for it this weekend.

[NewJeffCT]

12. regarding last week

Carol got her gun snagged by backing through an open door... then, she still doesn't look when going out the building and she gets nailed by the car. You'd think she'd have been on high alert.

[NewJeffCT]

13. WTF is Sasha doing?

taking out her frustrations?

[NewJeffCT]

14. OK - I get it now

using the wood to reinforce the church... the organ pipes are zombie defense

[NewJeffCT]

15. Michonne has been pretty quiet this season

and, now she's left behind at the church with Carl, Judith and Father Gabriel

[Brigid]

16. That Father Gabriel guy . . .

Is worse than useless.

[NewJeffCT]

17. pretty much

worried about blood stains on the floor after they tore the organ apart and all that?

[NewJeffCT]

18. Beth looking in at Carol

still seems to be plugged in?

[NewJeffCT]

19. Back to Abraham's group

still in the highway outside the cattle farm

[NewJeffCT]

20. Rosita shows a bit of passion

finally. Maggie pulls her gun on Abraham

[NewJeffCT]

21. Tyreese wants to do a trade

kidnap a few cops in exchange for Beth and Carol

[NewJeffCT]

22. Daryl supporting Tyreese

in that idea

[Joe Shlabotnik]

23. does sound like a safer plan.

[NewJeffCT]

24. It could very well be

I'm most worried about the doctor guy treating Carol

[NewJeffCT]

25. Beth getting angry

over the plan to pull the plug on Carol

[NewJeffCT]

26. Dawn showing some heart

weird - secretly helping Beth save Carol?

[Brigid]

29. I dunno . . .

What would be in the drug cabinets that would help Carol?

[NewJeffCT]

32. no idea

antibiotics? some other medication?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

34. interesting character twist

[Brigid]

27. There went the gunshots.

Here we go.

[NewJeffCT]

28. and now back to Glenn, Maggie and company

Abe is not right in the head...

[NewJeffCT]

30. Looks like Eugene is alive

Maggie pissed at Abraham - don't blame her

[Brigid]

31. Abraham is catatonic.

Not good.

[NewJeffCT]

41. No

he's not in a good place

[NewJeffCT]

33. Blood thinners

for Carol?

[Brigid]

40. Not a blood thinner.

Wikipedia says it is used in emergency medicine to increase heart rate and respiration. But that seems to be connected to treating cardiac arrest. Maybe that doctor would use it to try to prevent that?

[Laffy Kat]

67. If she is bleeding internally it will raise her BP for awhile.

They need to stop the bleeding and replace volume, though. Not sure about the logic behind the epi.

[Brigid]

69. Paging Aristus.

Though I don't know how much he'd know about emergency medicine.

I'm guessing that Carol really needs emergency surgery for her internal injuries, which they don't have the ability to do.

[Iris]

80. Even if she pulls through, what about her shoulder?

She was seriously injured before getting hit by the car. Seriously as in possibly unable to defend herself.

[Baitball Blogger]

85. I think she broke her clavicle.

As long as the bones are aligned, they will fuse properly.

[NewJeffCT]

35. finally getting some background on Rosita

could be time for her to die?

[Baitball Blogger]

86. My thoughts exactly.

I don't see where she would move into this story outside of the Abraham angle.

[NewJeffCT]

36. Noah springs a trap

and gets two cops in the snare.

[NewJeffCT]

37. Napalmed walkers?

remember Shane saying how they napalmed Atlanta?

[NewJeffCT]

38. they caught another cop?

it seems

[Joe Shlabotnik]

39. that was pretty cool.

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Good thing they don't have Shane to watch the captives, flashback to the endless Randall saga.

On edit, too bad Shane wasn't watching the captive.

[NewJeffCT]

42. good cop/bad cop?

and silent cop?

[NewJeffCT]

43. Michonne talking nice to Father G

saying they want to help

[NewJeffCT]

44. and, he's digging up floorboards

to escape? Come on dude...

[Brigid]

47. Carl is right.

It's incredible he's lasted this long.

[NewJeffCT]

49. the church

seems a lot bigger on the inside than on the outside.

Gabriel already hurting as he leaves the church.

[Brigid]

50. Puncture wound.

Goodbye, Father Gabriel.

[NewJeffCT]

52. Yep

he'll need a tetanus shot

[Brigid]

53. And antibiotics.

People forget how many people used to die of infections before antibiotics.

[Baitball Blogger]

87. You all see the reference to Jesus being nailed on the cross?

But in what weird way would Father G even come close to being Jesus, unless the show is setting him up to die in order to save everyone else?

[NewJeffCT]

91. maybe he's seeing it in himself

in a kind of arrogance that will eventually lead to his downfall?

[NewJeffCT]

45. Beth sneaks to get the medicine

and is administering it to Carol

[NewJeffCT]

46. Holding Carol's hand

and, we're down to the final 13 minutes. Time flies again

[NewJeffCT]

48. Sasha tears Bob's jacket

and gets upset over it. Tyreese offering to help her out

[NewJeffCT]

51. good cop

is also named Bob.

[charlie and algernon]

55. Not so good cop

[NewJeffCT]

54. Why did you do that Sasha?

another dumb move by a cast member at the end.

[Liberal Veteran]

66. Well, gosh. Can you really blame her?

If you can't trust a guy you just abducted at gunpoint and tied up, who can you trust?

[Brigid]

56. I knew it.

I knew Sasha should not have turned her back on that guy.

[NewJeffCT]

58. Yep

I knew something like that was coming

[Joe Shlabotnik]

60. yup saw it commin' too.

[NewJeffCT]

57. Sasha is pregnant

in real life - 8 months.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

62. wonder how that works (worked) with filming?

Maybe Sasha has been killed off when the season resumes. Given where her character is at, it could happen.

[Brigid]

64. I imagine . . .

She was still in the early stages of the pregnancy then, able to do things she cannot do now.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

65. True, but

I think they filmed the first 1/2 season from May until July or so, then took a break, and then filmed the last half of the season, not sure when filming would have wrapped up, but maybe only a few weeks ago???

[Brigid]

59. Happy Birthday, Chris!

[NewJeffCT]

61. Christian Serratos

looks completely different on Talking Dead. Most of them look better off Walking Dead, but she's completely different. Maybe it's the bright red lipstick?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

63. I swear, in order to be a survivor in the zombie apocalypse,

good looks evidently is a must. Even the more 'average' characters are good looking people by everyday standards.

[Laffy Kat]

68. Ain't that the truth!

I was wondering if I would cut the muster.

[Brigid]

70. That's Hollywood for you, especially for women.

I once heard about an actress who auditioned for "Baywatch". She said they lived her, but that she would need to lose 20 pounds. She said she would have weighed 97 pounds. Idiots.

[NewJeffCT]

75. yeah

the women on the show - Maggie, Beth, Sasha, Tara & Rosita - are all physically attractive.

The guys - Dale, Hershel, Merle - not always the case.

[Iris]

81. So the only old characters are men

ok, Merle wasn't that old. But, still.

[NewJeffCT]

92. Michael Rooker

the actor that played Merle is 59. Norm Reedus is no spring chicken, either, at 45

The only "older" woman currently on the show is Carol, and Melissa McBride is 49 - 10 years younger than Michael Rooker

The other prominent women on the show:
Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) is now 37
Andrea (Lori Holden) is 44
Jacqui from season 1 is 50
The woman that played Hershel's wife is much younger than Hershel at 48 (Scott Wilson is 72... playing maybe mid 60s?)

[amerikat]

71. Off topic but back to last weeks show.

The scene where Noah is trapped under the bookcase and Daryl takes a pack of cigarettes, brand name "Morley". I new the fictional brand from X-Files. The smoking man smoked Morley.

http://www.toptenz.net/all-tv-is-in-the-morley-universe.php

Let’s start with The X-Files. On that show, there was a nefarious character known only as the Cigarette Smoking Man. He was a mysterious, shadowy figure who was often pulling the strings of various schemes. And, obviously, he liked to smoke cigarettes. Morley’s, in particular. You know who else smokes Morley? Everyone’s favorite condescending, zombie bait curmudgeon, Dale. So right there, we can connect The X-Files to The Walking Dead. Considering some of the things Mulder and Scully had to deal with over the years, that’s not such a giant leap, right?

Another easy leap is from both of those shows to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That show featured a Billy Idol-esque vampire named Spike, who was a chain smoking Brit whose cigarette of choice was Morley. Boom, we’ve got X-Files, Walking Dead, and Buffy all rolled together pretty nicely. But at this rate, with all of those zombies and monsters, Mulder and Scully and Buffy are going to need some help fending for themselves, aren’t they?



Interesting little Easter Egg.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

72. If a character shows up smoking Red Apple Cigarettes,

then we know that things are about to get medieval in a Quintin Tarantino way.

[NewJeffCT]

74. cool find

never knew that

[Brigid]

73. Next week is the mid-season finale.

Hard to believe!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

76. I Know!

Wish the break wasn't so long too. I feel like, as fans we strung along too much for AMC's shareholder profits (same thing with mad men, which I've just about given up on)

[Brigid]

77. "The Vikings" is even worse.

I don't even remember for sure when the last episode was, or what happened. It won't be back until next year (spring, I think). How is a show supposed to develop an audience that way?

[amerikat]

78. Vikings would take no shit from walkers.

Think Michone times ten with sword skills.

[Brigid]

79. Michonne would make a great shield maiden.

[NewJeffCT]

84. the chain mail armor would offer nice protection

for Vikings (or any medieval era man at arms or knight)

[kaiden]

82. is it okay to theorize about next week's episode here?

'Cause I really think the church is gonna burn and it'll be hell for Michonne, Carl and Judith to escape what with all those windows boarded up from the outside and Father Gabriel's door locked from the inside.

[NewJeffCT]

83. ouch

you're right - that "you'll burn for this" scratched into the side could be foreshadowing

[Baitball Blogger]

88. Except the cliff hanger is over because we know that Father Gabriel gave them

an escape hole.

[kaiden]

89. But they don't know that yet.

And who will set the fire, if there is a fire?

[NewJeffCT]

90. The Governor

his death was all a dream.

just kidding - no idea.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

93. Morgan,

he's beyond 'clear' now, and takes orders directly from God.

On edit, Morgan saving Michonne and Carl, would be a convenient way of bringing him back into the story.

[NewJeffCT]

94. oh - good call

He knows Carl and Michonne as well - and, they were conveniently left behind.

[Baitball Blogger]

95. I know there is supposed to be a zombie horde, so I suspect the

zombies from the school are going to break through the glass.

Except, I don't think that accounts for 800 zombies. I think I read somewhere that the finale had that many roaming around the set.

Maybe we'll get a mini version of Atlanta being burned to the ground a la Gone with the Wind?