an anti-Iggy Azalea playlist

[alp227]

I think I'll get into the nitty gritty of the whole Iggy Azalea & cultural appropriation thing (which by the way i honestly feel was stirred up by a deep cover right winger entrapping us into saying stupid stuff, given the loaded tone of the OP title and the poster having registered within the week). But my opinion on Iggy Azalea: her so-called music is trash and nothing more than the same ol' "get money"/partying/getting high on you-know-what/hooking up all the time nonsense that the corporate record labels have passed off as "hip hop" for the past 15-20 years. (OK, 20 may be too far given that from 1994-1996, mainstream hip hop was still tolerable with Tupac, Notorious BIG, Nas, etc.) Honestly who can really tell the difference between Iggy Azalea's "Fancy" vs. Chingy's "Balla Baby" (a song that came out when I was in 8th grade)?

But here are women who actually know how to rap.

Like Salt N Pepa:

Lauryn Hill:

Here's a combo of TALENTED female rappers, in this order guest performing in Brandy's "I Wanna Be Down" remix: Yo-Yo, MC Lyte, and Queen Latifah:

Jean Grae:

Roxanne Shante:

JJ Fad:

Hell, even DEBBIE HARRY could rap in Blondie's "Rapture" back in '81, jump to 1:50:

So could Teena Marie, jump to 3:40 in "Square Biz"

[Katashi_itto]

1. K&R!

[KMOD]

2. lol, I hate to admit it,

but I am a fanilow.

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5. +1 me too

[KMOD]

3. the beginning of rap, is hard to pin

technically, I think this could even be considered beginning rap.

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6. I read somewhere the sugar hill gang was the first "official" rap

[NewJeffCT]

10. that's still a fun listen

Yes, I think that is often named as the "first" rap song -

and, speaking of white rappers - have you heard this version?

[Katashi_itto]

12. lol +1000

[Jetboy]

16. I always heard that Sylvia from Mickey and Silvia (Love is Strange) was

a big catalyst for getting rap started. She had a couple of hits in the 70s too.

The story goes that she heard about rap from her son and she wanted to make a record. None of the rappers who were important in making the scene happen wanted to do it so she rounded up people willing to do it and that was the Sugar Hill Gang.

The first rap I ever heard was Blondie's 'Rapture' recorded a few years later.

[azurnoir]

4. here's one

[bigwillq]

7. Some great songs in this thread.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

8. K&R. nt

[ancianita]

9. Appropriation comes from all over the world...e.g., Afrika Bambaataa

"...In that same year Donovan and Soulsonic Force dropped the live band to go high-tech. Bambaataa credited the pioneering Japanese electropop group Yellow Magic Orchestra, whose work he sampled, as an inspiration.[11][12]

He also borrowed an eerie keyboard hook from German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk and was provided an electronic "beat-box" by producer Arthur Baker and synthesizer player John Robie.

That resulted in "Planet Rock," which went to gold status and generated an entire school of "electro-boogie" rap and dance music. Bambaataa formed his own label to release the Time Zone Compilation. He created "turntablism" as its own subgenre and the ratification of "electronica" as an industry-certified trend in the late 1990s.[13]..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika_Bambaataa

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13. Yellow magic Orchestra

[NewJeffCT]

11. Do white male rappers come under fire as much as white women?

Seems like it's okay to bash white women trying to rap or sound black... but, Eminem and The Beastie Boys have been around & popular for many years. House of Pain had a pretty big hit with "Jump Around" and I'm sure I can come up with a few more names if I went to google.

i wouldn't know Iggy Azalea's music from a hole in the ground, but why can't she rap if she wants? I mean, is she worse than Milli Vanilli?

[alp227]

15. Iggy makes hip hop look bad. Comparing her to the BEASTIE BOYS, what the hell?

Sadly, Iggy is so talentless she makes Milli Vanilli sound like The Four Tops.

[Katashi_itto]

14. Not sure if this counts as Rap but its my favorite