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Serious question - if House Of Cards were real, would you vote for Frank Underwood? (Original Post) Initech Mar 2015 OP
When? elleng Mar 2015 #1
Under no circumstances! Nay. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #2
No. He wants to cut Social Security. nt valerief Mar 2015 #3
He did sound like he was courting the right-wing conservative vote, which isn't a Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #7
He said he wanted to cut Social Security and Medicare to pay for the jobs program. valerief Mar 2015 #9
Exactly. Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #10
Good grief no. He's an out and out murderer HERVEPA Mar 2015 #4
The voter doesn't know that. Orangepeel Mar 2015 #5
OK. I read the post as expecting the voter would know what they know about him .. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #6
He's too conservative. Tobin S. Mar 2015 #8
Definitely no Generic Brad Mar 2015 #11
I can't really say and here's why! LynneSin Mar 2015 #12
no! Denis 11 Mar 2015 #13
No, but he'd say one thing to get elected, then do something else. alarimer Mar 2015 #14
I hope he and Claire go out like Michael Douglas & Kathleen Turner in War of the Roses ... Myrina Mar 2015 #16
Nope. Myrina Mar 2015 #15
Knowing what we know, of course not dr.strangelove Mar 2015 #17
Frank Underwood is in no way Francis Urquhart. GoneOffShore Mar 2015 #18
no, because I can spot a sociopath a mile away Skittles Mar 2015 #19

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
7. He did sound like he was courting the right-wing conservative vote, which isn't a
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:00 PM
Mar 2015

smart thing to expose until AFTER an election.

However, job programs are generally associated with the Democrats. It sounds like the writers merged two platforms together to come up with a plausible situation for this story.

The point that would create problems in real life is that everyone over thirty would feel like they had to go back to work to earn the money they thought they had already earned through SS withholdings that were taken when they were employed.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. He said he wanted to cut Social Security and Medicare to pay for the jobs program.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 05:48 PM
Mar 2015

Underwood, not Obama.

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
10. Exactly.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 08:21 PM
Mar 2015

Which means that people would have to go back to work to get the money they thought they had already earned.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
5. The voter doesn't know that.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 12:26 PM
Mar 2015

(I'm only half way through Season 3, so I guess that could change!)

But the voter should know that grandpa would need to get an AmWorks job to replace the social security check that he would no longer be entitled to.

So, no


 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
6. OK. I read the post as expecting the voter would know what they know about him ..
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 01:30 PM
Mar 2015

from watching the series.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
8. He's too conservative.
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 03:05 PM
Mar 2015

Being from the south, that's probably out of necessity, but I don't have to like it.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
11. Definitely no
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 09:19 PM
Mar 2015

Yanking Social Security and Medicare would destroy the elderly in this country and ensure that anyone over 35 would never vote for a Democrat.

Young people might like his jobs program, but they don't vote in huge numbers. Fating a regular, consistent voting block to starve and be homeless would irreparably damage this country.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. I can't really say and here's why!
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

First, HoC is a fictional series and thus we were provide a 'behind the scenes' view of the life of a very manipulative politician and his wife. Knowing the way that I do from HoC cards - of course I wouldn't vote for the guy? Hell I even question why they are calling this guy a Democrat with some of the manuevers he has done behind the scenes.

HOWEVER....

I have never seen the life of any politicians upclose and personal in the same manner of Frank Underwood so my assumption would be if Frank Underwood was real we would have never learned of all the crazy stuff he has done to get to the White House. In the end what do we really know about politicians. So there could be a chance that if I lived in his district I would have voted for him. But it's very doubtful that I would vote for him in this Presidential election - he has an appeal to the older voting base but I think I would have voted for someone else.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
14. No, but he'd say one thing to get elected, then do something else.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:40 AM
Mar 2015

I HATE him and Claire. I'm really hoping Frank gets killed at the end of the series. I'm serious; I've never wanted to see a character come to a bad end as much as Frank Underwood.

I strongly suspect more of our politicians are like this that we know. I mean, not murderers, but manipulative and unethical.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
16. I hope he and Claire go out like Michael Douglas & Kathleen Turner in War of the Roses ...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

.... they take each other out, in the end.


I cannot f***ing stand Claire. Lady MacBeth, indeed.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
15. Nope.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

Spoiler question .... what is his 'America Works' program about? He can't be 100% altruistic, wanting to help people find jobs ... he's gutting social security to do it. He's not stupid enough to think it's ultimately a good thing. Who's bidding is he doing in getting rid of the safety net?

What's his ultimate motive? I'm going to guess it has something to do with his father/childhood.


dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
17. Knowing what we know, of course not
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:43 AM
Mar 2015

Otherwise, I might. He is a centrist, but one who could beat any repuke in the general and would appoint liberal judges to the courts. It would depend on the field.

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