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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:39 PM Mar 2016

No one could see the color blue until modern times

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-blue-and-how-do-we-see-color-2015-2

Until relatively recently in human history, "blue" didn't exist, not in the way we think of it.

As the delightful Radiolab episode "Colors" describes, ancient languages didn't have a word for blue — not Greek, not Chinese, not Japanese, not Hebrew. And without a word for the color, there is evidence that they may not have seen it at all...

The only ancient culture to develop a word for blue was the Egyptians — and as it happens, they were also the only culture that had a way to produce a blue dye.

If you think about it, blue doesn't appear much in nature — there are almost no blue animals, blue eyes are rare, and blue flowers are mostly human creations. There is, of course, the sky, but is that really blue? As we've seen from Geiger's work, even scriptures that contemplate the heavens continuously still do not necessarily see it as "blue."


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No one could see the color blue until modern times (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2016 OP
I'd suggest a view of The Last Judgment The Second Stone Mar 2016 #1
Going back to the very dawn of civilization, one of Afghanistan's exports was lapis lazuli. Coventina Mar 2016 #8
You mean other than Indigo? underahedgerow Mar 2016 #2
Native Peoples sought and cherished turquoise, as it represented the sky/heavens. denbot Mar 2016 #3
Beautiful jewlery, beautiful wedding. panader0 Mar 2016 #6
This was the biggest cabochon of old stock Bissbee Blue I'll ever probably get my hands on. denbot Mar 2016 #7
Wow TuxedoKat Mar 2016 #9
They didn't need the word until the invention of the guitar Orrex Mar 2016 #4
The ancient Greeks did have a word for blue sarge43 Mar 2016 #5
Cyan hobbit709 Mar 2016 #10
There are tons of blue flowers! My Good Babushka Mar 2016 #11
techelet is blue in hebrew Mosby Mar 2016 #12
The indigo bunting (bird) has no blue pigment on its feathers cabineer Mar 2016 #13
This doesn't sound right Sanity Claws Mar 2016 #14

Coventina

(27,118 posts)
8. Going back to the very dawn of civilization, one of Afghanistan's exports was lapis lazuli.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

Highly prized all over the ancient world for its blue color.

This Sumerian artifact uses lapis lazuli from Afghanistan circa 2600 BCE - so almost 5000 years ago!


The article is embarrassing!

denbot

(9,899 posts)
3. Native Peoples sought and cherished turquoise, as it represented the sky/heavens.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:48 AM
Mar 2016

So, no, I don't buy that stories premise..

This is me on the right..

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Mining this..

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While this is not the Californian turquoise from the mine above, these are examples of my interpretation of my ancestral fascination with turquoise,

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While I was digging out my old turquoise photos I came across Alley and my wedding photos.
I am blessed beyond belief, and proof that even the unworthy, get lucky..

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panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. Beautiful jewlery, beautiful wedding.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:27 AM
Mar 2016

I live near Bisbee, Az., home of "Bisbee Blue" turquoise, some high quality stuff.
I'm a malachite fan

denbot

(9,899 posts)
7. This was the biggest cabochon of old stock Bissbee Blue I'll ever probably get my hands on.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

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But I do have some Bisbee in the rough, very good old stock, very high quality, uncut, and waiting till I can truly retire, and continue to learn how silver and turquoise love each other..

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
9. Wow
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

That is really unusually beautiful turquoise. Do you sell your jewelry somewhere? You and your wife are a lovely couple.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
5. The ancient Greeks did have a word for blue
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:42 AM
Mar 2016

Sapphire - a combination word meaning blue and stone.

Because a language doesn't have a specific word for a concept or object doesn't mean the speakers aren't aware of it. Case in point: A DU favorite - schadenfreude

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
10. Cyan
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

Its name is derived from the Ancient Greek κυανός, transliterated kýanos, meaning "dark blue".

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
11. There are tons of blue flowers!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

chicory, morning glory, hydrangea, forget-me-nots, hyacinths, columbine, blue leadwood, lobelia, bellflowers, bluebells...
Blue existed, and I'm sure people saw it. I rebuke this article as stupid.

 

cabineer

(30 posts)
13. The indigo bunting (bird) has no blue pigment on its feathers
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

it's just reflected light apparently. Kind of strange because I've seen indigo buntings.
Sure look dark blue to my eyes!

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
14. This doesn't sound right
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

Blue is in a rainbow. It is one of the colors shown in a prism.

There are blue birds, e.g. Blue jay, bluebird.
There are blue flowers.

Water is often seen as blue, depending on the light.

I'm skeptical about the very premise of this article.

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