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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:44 PM Apr 2016

‘Toni Tennille’: Her happy marriage (of 39 years) with the Captain was a lie

‘Toni Tennille’: Her happy marriage with the Captain was a lie

In the 1970s, Captain and Tennille were the ultimate strait-laced, soft rock power couple. With a string of gently upbeat hits, a variety show that emphasized their yin-and-yang chemistry, and a seemingly happy musical and legal marriage (they wed in 1975), Daryl Dragon (the Captain) and Toni Tennille appeared to be achieving the promise of their signature hit, “Love Will Keep Us Together.”

But as she writes in her new memoir, “Toni Tennille ,” the whole thing was a lie.

“Here I was a newly married woman with a hit record and a Grammy, living the dream that so many artists aim for,” Tennille recalls. But despite her success, she felt lonely and isolated from her husband: “The man whom I’d thought was my soul mate was in many ways just as remote as a stranger passing by through the fog.” In a turn of events so surprising that it captured tabloid attention, Tennille eventually divorced Dragon, but not until 2014, after 39 years of what had appeared to be a solid marriage.

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Tennille paints a portrait of Dragon that is not flattering. She characterizes him as emotionally closed-off, controlling, obsessive about maintaining his macrobiotic diet, self-conscious about the loss of his hair (that’s why he always wore that captain’s hat, she explains) and rarely, if ever, demonstrative toward his wife. “I can say without exaggeration that he showed no physical affection for me during our very long marriage,” she writes. Throughout the relationship, even while on tour, they slept in separate bedrooms.


Wow - I remember watching their variety show on ABC back in the 70s and they were always portrayed as being this amazingly happily married couple. Who would have thunk it??!!

Oh and as for you men going bald - just embrace it. Don't try to hide it, be bald and be proud!
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‘Toni Tennille’: Her happy marriage (of 39 years) with the Captain was a lie (Original Post) LynneSin Apr 2016 OP
proven that balding men have higher testosterone levels, and therefore are more Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #1
How would you think someone who was a "remote stranger" was your soul mate? cyberswede Apr 2016 #2
Nasty people are always on their best behavior if they want something lunatica Apr 2016 #4
That's a big 10-4. nt raccoon Apr 2016 #22
They were TV Personalities - ABC probably pushed them to be all lovie-dovie LynneSin Apr 2016 #6
I'm bald and I'm okay with it. Aristus Apr 2016 #3
Another illusion bites the dust lunatica Apr 2016 #5
It's like my childhood was just a dream, figments of my imagination LynneSin Apr 2016 #7
plus 1 Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #12
Their Muskrat furry outfits are on sale on E-Bay. Kaleva Apr 2016 #8
"...no physical affection..." "...slept in separate bedrooms..." That's why it was called retread Apr 2016 #9
Daryl Dragon also has a neurological disease TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #10
SNAP!!!!!!!! mackerel Apr 2016 #11
seriously! nt magical thyme Apr 2016 #13
Exactly. His characterization on the show was Myrina Apr 2016 #14
Yeah. She wasn't exactly trapped financially TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #15
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Duppers Apr 2016 #21
sometimes you just do not get a divorce dembotoz Apr 2016 #16
I had a friend who was that way with his wife TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #18
It ain't about baldness. So what did they *do* all those 39 years? Who cares, but UTUSN Apr 2016 #17
Well, I think she was more in love with him than vice versa TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #19
There is no God... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #20
Yeah and when Charles and Diana got engaged, the media portrayed it as a fairy tale marriage, raccoon Apr 2016 #23
Poor Diana never had a chance TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #24
She gave him "an heir and a spare" JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #25
They are entertainers. MuseRider Apr 2016 #26
Never trust a man who's obsessive about hiding his baldness. Paladin Apr 2016 #27
Or Rand Paul with the Worst Toupee In The Universe. KamaAina Apr 2016 #28
Jeez---you can BUY a toupee that looks that bad? Paladin Apr 2016 #29
I say 'Embrace the baldness' LynneSin Apr 2016 #30
May your tribe increase...... ;) (nt) Paladin Apr 2016 #32
What do you think of bald guys with pony tails? Ex Lurker Apr 2016 #33
I have no issue with long hair LynneSin Apr 2016 #35
Vanity is not exactly exclusive to men Major Nikon Apr 2016 #43
39 years is a long time to just sit around waiting for affection from your husband. GOLGO 13 Apr 2016 #31
She should have dumped him and married Ron Jeremy hollowdweller Apr 2016 #34
She should get a Lifetime Achievement Emmy. bluedigger Apr 2016 #36
There's two sides to every story Major Nikon Apr 2016 #37
The first of my friends to get divorced surprised me Ex Lurker Apr 2016 #38
I've had similar experience with pairs of friends who got divorced Major Nikon Apr 2016 #39
People can be oblivious though TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #40
True, but I don't know that she's disputing his story Major Nikon Apr 2016 #41
Oh, I agree TexasBushwhacker Apr 2016 #42

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
2. How would you think someone who was a "remote stranger" was your soul mate?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

Did he have a total personality change after they were married? I don't get it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Nasty people are always on their best behavior if they want something
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

then when they get it the nasty comes out.

It's a lot more common than one would think.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
6. They were TV Personalities - ABC probably pushed them to be all lovie-dovie
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

I'm guessing after years of fame in the 70s it turned more into a 'Stockholm Syndrome' where she just accepted that was how her husband was and she had to be in the marriage.

She said he ate a macrobiotic diet yet the guy always seemed a bit on the chunky side.

Aristus

(66,452 posts)
3. I'm bald and I'm okay with it.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

It seems weird to be proud of something that I can't control.

Anyway, the Captain & Tennille were the soundtrack of my idyllic childhood growing up in the 70's. I still listen to them for the nostalgia kick. Also because Toni Tennille (or Toni Tennell, as she was known back then) was in a dance class with my mother when they were both children in Montgomery, Alabama.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
10. Daryl Dragon also has a neurological disease
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:38 AM - Edit history (1)

that causes tremors bad enough that he can no longer play the piano. Health issues and health insurance were both mentioned in the divorce papers. That being said, I don't really understand when someone decides to speak ill of a former spouse. No one made her stay with him.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. Exactly. His characterization on the show was
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:58 PM
Apr 2016

... quiet, aloof, sort of nerdy. If we all could gather that thru the TV screen, why didn't she see it up close & in person? It took 39 years for her to realize? I call bullshit.

I have an aunt who was married for close to 50 years & then when her husband had a couple heart attacks & needed assisted living & the money started to dry up, she divorced him, took her "half" & moved to Florida. Cold hearted.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
15. Yeah. She wasn't exactly trapped financially
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

like many women, although we don't really know the state of their finances. No matter how much income you have, you can still be in debt up to your eyeballs.

I thought it was strange that she was even writing a memoir, but it looks like people wanted to read it:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/1630761745/ref=mw_dp_cr?pageNumber=2

From the reviews, I learned that her father was an alcoholic and that Daryl also had a difficult childhood. That made me go "Ah!". Women with alcoholic fathers often go on to marry alcoholics, or otherwise difficult, distant men. They couldn't fix their father, so they repeat the relationship and desperately try to "fix" their broken husbands. I knew a woman who married 3 alcoholics!

So she may have decided to write the memoir to answer all the questions of "How could you divorce after 39 years?!!!!". Like my mother, who divorced my alcoholic, bipolar father after 38 years of marriage, Toni probably wants to live her retirement in peace. That being said, I would feel more comfortable if she waited until Daryl was deceased. He may have been "cold" but now he's old, sick and alone.

BTW, Tenille moved to Florida too!

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
21. I agree wholeheartedly with you.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 07:21 AM
Apr 2016

Darryl's failing general health, failing mental capacities, and Parkinson's tremors made his health insurance costs astronomical back before ACA. In addition, as you said, his Parkinson's tremors rendered him unable to play keyboards and therefore no longer able to contribute to their earning power.

All of this, along with his cold nature, it seems, made him a too heavy albatross around her pretty neck.

I've watched more than a dozen youtube interviews of them (just out of morbid curiosity because I loved them) and concluded that Darryl was as charming as a dead fish. And his lack of ability to further contribute to the duo's earning power became just one more negative incentive for her to stay with him.

With this book she's trying to elict the public's sympathies and compassion, in addition to earning herself more cash.

However, for her to walk away just when he became sick is as unflattering to her as his lack of attentiveness and affection. Besides, Toni herself has lost some voice quality.

But, I suppose, everyone has a last-straw breaking point.

It's a sad ending. I loved the illusion of the happy couple with their happy, upbeat songs of devotion. Is there Muskrat Love anywhere now?



dembotoz

(16,829 posts)
16. sometimes you just do not get a divorce
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

have not lived with my wife for a number of years now.
its how we kept from not killing each other.

i used the excuse of staying married while my kids were in school in order to be able to see them.

youngest graduated a few years back
no longer valid excuse
we have not slept in the same room going on 20 years now

yes i can see how the divorce never took place.

yes my friend and family all say i should have divorced years ago

land of shoulda woulda coulda

i did not

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
18. I had a friend who was that way with his wife
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:57 PM
Apr 2016

They grew apart after she had a cancer battle and he was struggling with bipolar disorder. They just didn't feel the need to go through the legalities. She died eventually.

UTUSN

(70,729 posts)
17. It ain't about baldness. So what did they *do* all those 39 years? Who cares, but
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

didn't *one* of them need to (fill in the blank).

Recently this "Happy" Hour dude tells everybody how his wife didn't give him sex for 13 years. Makes it sound like he was celibate all those years. These days he's a horndog, like in stripper customer, public display of "affection". He's a big time business owner, throws cash at the girls, tells everybody how much his half of the divorce cost (half million) and that he's supporting three at the moment.

But something doesn't ring true. Really, he didn't have sex (from the wife) for 13 years, or was it that horndog-him was (horndogging elsewhere) and the wife wouldn't be a leftover attraction?

Back to the thread, what was going on those 39 years?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
19. Well, I think she was more in love with him than vice versa
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:35 PM
Apr 2016

They had been music partners and got their first record deal. The label told them they would be more marketable if they married, so they did. Their publicist even said they married on Valentine's Day even though they married in November. She says she was in love with him and tried to make it work, but he never loved her the way she wanted to be loved. But they had built a life together and bought a lot of real estate, so she stuck with it. She's 75 and from the South. Just like my mom (born in '34) stuck with my alcoholic, bipolar dad until she just couldn't take it anymore. That's just what her generation did.

Apparently he was blindsided by it.

raccoon

(31,119 posts)
23. Yeah and when Charles and Diana got engaged, the media portrayed it as a fairy tale marriage,
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

like they were SOOOO much in love.

Turned out it was a fairy tale after all, though not in the way it was as first presented.

MuseRider

(34,119 posts)
26. They are entertainers.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:07 AM
Apr 2016

You learn to present no matter what is happening. As to the rest of this? It is way more common than people think. Think con man (or women). Perhaps this illness and age presented her with the first real opportunity out without being crippled in some way herself?

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
27. Never trust a man who's obsessive about hiding his baldness.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

It's a huge indication of massive insecurity and toxic immaturity---whether it's the "Captain" with his hats, or Trump with his laughable comb-over.......

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
29. Jeez---you can BUY a toupee that looks that bad?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

I always figured it was his own horror-show hair. Kind of went with his seeming inability to get himself properly dressed, on any given day......

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. I say 'Embrace the baldness'
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

Nothing screams 'Not Sexy' like a bad combover. Worse is a bad combover with a guy with long hair. Long hair actuallys weighs down the hair and makes the bald spot look even worse when there is a combover involved.

Just be bald, embrace it. Don't try to hide the damn baldness because that's just a part of aging just like we women have to deal with things that are a 'part of aging'

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
33. What do you think of bald guys with pony tails?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

I grew one. It probably looks stupid, but growing my hair long was on my bucket list, and better now than never.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
35. I have no issue with long hair
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:29 PM
Apr 2016

but when someone with long hair has a massive bald spot it just makes the bald spot look even worse.

As for long hair, as long as it is somewhat clean then I'm fine with it. I'm at that age where cleanliness is always appreciated!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
43. Vanity is not exactly exclusive to men
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:02 AM
Apr 2016

If a hat speaks volumes about a man, one has to wonder what tea leaves are to be read from wigs, makeup, false eyelashes, aftermarket parts, hair dye, a considerably large segment of the fashion industry, and other things women use to hide physical imperfections.

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
31. 39 years is a long time to just sit around waiting for affection from your husband.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

I remember she was attractive back in the day. The story sounds...strange to me.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
37. There's two sides to every story
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 11:53 PM
Apr 2016

According to him he never knew there was a problem until she actually had him served with divorce papers, which if true seems kinda shitty.

Ex Lurker

(3,816 posts)
38. The first of my friends to get divorced surprised me
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

literally less than two weeks before, he was telling me how happy he was. Since then, nothing surprises me. I don't assume I know anything that happens behind closed doors in anyone else's relationship, and I don't take what people say about their relationships at face value.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
39. I've had similar experience with pairs of friends who got divorced
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:06 AM
Apr 2016

Both tell the same story about how they did no wrong and the other was a complete asshole, which you never heard about when they were married. I'm certain some divorces are one sided, but I'm also pretty sure that the truth often lies somewhere in the middle.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
40. People can be oblivious though
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

My dad was an alcoholic and diagnosed as bipolar when he was in his 50s. Not an easy guy to be around. They had gone to a marriage counselor. My mother had moved out once. He talked her into coming back, promising he would quit drinking and take his meds. That's all my mother asked for. Then he started drinking again and quit his lithium. So finally she moved out and had him served with the papers. He was SHOCKED!

That being said, she may have threatened to leave for years, but hadn't. So when she finally did, he was surprised.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
41. True, but I don't know that she's disputing his story
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:26 AM
Apr 2016

She was also still living with him during and after she had him served.

If things were as one sided as she claims, why is it her that has bad things to say about him and not the other way around? From what I've witnessed, people that actually do have controlling personalities are usually the first ones to talk shit about their ex. I think by profiting from badmouthing him while he has not one bad thing to say about her reveals more about her than it does about him.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,213 posts)
42. Oh, I agree
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:34 AM
Apr 2016

This memoir just seems like kicking him when he's down. As for the divorce, health insurance and medical expenses were mentioned in the divorce papers. Maybe she decided to take her half of the millions and bail rather than watch more of THEIR money go to paying HIS medical expenses.

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