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After a 15 year absence, cancer has returned to plague my beautiful wife.
As I write this, she is in surgery, where a team of cancer specialists is removing all sorts of parts, some of which she can do without, some whose absence she will have to get used to missing. This is necessary to prevent a spread, as it is a rare, aggressive form. The oncologist said it usually strikes women past menopause and slender women. My wife is both (5'10", 130 pounds). I was not encouraged to read that Gwen Ifill just died of the same form of cancer.
She has managed to keep her good mood and smile for the 42 years I have known her. Here is a photo from just 4 months ago:
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If we're lucky, we'll have a lot more pics like that. If not, count on me being a wreck for a good long while.
I'll know more this afternoon. I'm not the nail-biting type, but any perceived outer calm is not an accurate reflection of the truth..
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)You and I briefly chatted before DU went down.
So the good news is she did get the operation quickly.
And that she has good doctors, I should think.
the not too good news is that there is nothing anyone can say right now that will keep you from climbing the walls, and the immediate uncertainty is torture.
I am so sorry you have to bear that.
talking can help, sometimes.
Feel free to pm me if it will help.
I am wide awake at 3:45 Central time.... have bad nights occasionally, so am up.
Sending crossed fingers and prayer for you both.
DFW
(54,476 posts)She did indeed get a quick operation scheduled, which, considering Germany's two tier class system of medicine, was very fortunate. She is "second class," which means for most Germans, "don't call us, we'll call you." Luckily, her doctors recognized the aggressive form of cancer she had, said she couldn't afford to wait, and got her a slot.
I used to go crazy when during the primaries, so many posters were on here telling everyone about how Germany had a single payer system, when nothing of the sort is true. She had a thyroid tumor (benign) 4 years ago, and retired early. I have been paying the equivalent of about $500 a month for her health insurance until she hits 65, when the German version of Medicare kicks in.
Fortunately, we have a tight group of friends here. We all live within a few minutes' walk from one another, and I have people to talk to, even eat with if I feel like it. Where I am mostly on the road, she is always here, always ready to help out, and will reap the payback when she gets out of the hospital. Our younger daughter, who now has a job with a schedule like mine, is currently in Cuba, but will be back here in a few days. She will work from here for a week, which will free me up somewhat.
I have everything crossed but my eyes.
TexasTowelie
(112,614 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)I should know something in 4 or 5 hours.
democrank
(11,112 posts)Stay strong and make every minute count.
DFW
(54,476 posts)And we do make every minute count. If it weren't for the fact that our daughters are now 33 and 31, I would have sworn that the 42 years went by in 42 minutes.
You two have such an amazing life. I am praying that her doctors can create a great outcome so you can continue with it. I am so sorry that you are dealing with this.
DFW
(54,476 posts)If any life can be said to be typical. But we are in no hurry to have things end. After 42 years together, what would I do?
So, we'll deal with it. The alternative is not to be contemplated.
Solly Mack
(90,795 posts)It can never hurt
Solly Mack
(90,795 posts)all too well what y'all are going through, and I am so sorry that it is happening again.
I want you both to have many more years of sharing photographs and stories of your beautiful family.
DFW
(54,476 posts)Well, not always it seems.
I echo your sentiment!
Much appreciated
Arkansas Granny
(31,538 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)We'll take any help we can get at this point.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Hoping for the very best news. I hope you have someone to keep you company today. In person.
We of course, are back and here whenever you want to post updates.
Much Love
Ann
DFW
(54,476 posts)She'll be in the ICU overnight, but I can visit there this afternoon., which is still morning your time.
cpamomfromtexas
(1,247 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)We're hoping it's the last.
All the women in her family on her mom's side have had cancer, some twice, and all lived past 90. We're hoping she is no exception.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)handmade34
(22,759 posts)sending you all the positive thoughts I can muster
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)Here across the channel in Düsseldorf
gademocrat7
(10,680 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)barbtries
(28,817 posts)i hope all the news from here on out is good news.
DFW
(54,476 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)Last time was in 2001. Two operations, chemo, radiation, a month in a cancer rehab spa (they have things like that here in Germany, and insurance covers it!).
Last time, it was an 8 month battle, but she beat it. We're hoping for a shorter ordeal but a similar outcome.
mnhtnbb
(31,411 posts)and that the surgeons will get all of it.
I think being family is almost harder than being the one who is ill. There's just not much you can do.
When you're sick you can focus your mind on getting well and let people take care of you.
So, be sure to take care of yourself as your wife recuperates from the surgery. I'm a big believer
in the value of laughter and that it does contribute to healing. Whatever you can do to increase
the humor quotient in your daily lives will probably at least make you feel better in the short run and maybe even
help in the long run.
And hugs are beneficial, too. Touch is good. Reaching out to send you hugs.
DFW
(54,476 posts)We both know what she's up against. Luckily, we have very close friends right here within minutes pf the house. As in one to three minutes walk. I have a table to sit at and food and drink if I find I'm in no shape to make my own. Plus, one of my daughters, who is currently in Cuba, arrives back here Sunday morning and will stay five days that she can't afford to take.
I'll know more this afternoon. Cross fingers, toes, eyes, and anything else that superstition and human anatomy permits.
Paladin
(28,281 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,892 posts)This is a poem I once got from my mother. Yes, my mother. Bravest woman I ever met.
After her second bout with breast cancer.
PS: She is still alive, after burying two husbands, two sons, and one daughter.
Do not surrender even when defeated,
and do not be a slave even in bondage,
trembling with fear advance bravely,
and attack with fury, though badly wounded.
Be as stubborn as a rusting nail,
that refuses to yield though old and ruined,
and do not envy the peacock's plumage,
that drops in fear at the first noise.
Be as a god that never cries,
or as a devil that never prays,
or as the oak whose mighty canopy,
needs of water but does not beg it.
Even when it rolls to the dust,
let your head scowl and bite,
and scream for vengeance.
- Pedro Palacios Almafuerte
Argentinian poet 1854-1917
DFW
(54,476 posts)Not that the amputation at the neck at the end of the poem is something we hope to face......
japple
(9,847 posts)Hoping for the best...
We'll take all the positive thoughts we can get!
babylonsister
(171,105 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)Thanks for posting!
MissHoneychurch
(33,600 posts)Best of everything for both of you!!!
DFW
(54,476 posts)We'll take all of that we can get!
callous taoboy
(4,593 posts)I am looking forward to many more beautiful pics.
DFW
(54,476 posts)For someone as beautiful as she is, she has never ever figured it out, never realized it.
And she is all the more beautiful for that.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Sending the best vibes I can muster your way!
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I know from your writings here that she is an amazing woman. My very best wishes for her recovery.
DFW
(54,476 posts)If anyone can overcome this, she can. She is out of the OR, so I am off to see her in a few minutes.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I am sending positive thoughts to you both. Keep us posted.
DFW
(54,476 posts)I'm off to the hospital, as I have just been informed that she is out of surgery.
lpbk2713
(42,772 posts)And that you both enjoy many more life experiences after this is forgotten about.
hermetic
(8,331 posts)the very best.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,766 posts)I'll miss your wise voice during these dark days.
DFW
(54,476 posts)I am taking this week and probably most of next off from work to be there for her. My German-based daughter will stay with us when she gets in from Cuba on Sunday (direct flights from Havana to Düsseldorf!), and that will allow me to run a few errands. But I'll be here in case she needs me for something, or just wants a warm hand to hold. Work can wait, and RHIP.
panader0
(25,816 posts)LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)Sending good vibes to you and your wife.
OregonBlue
(7,755 posts)of her.
PennyK
(2,302 posts)I'm through with most of my treatments for breast cancer and I've been able to stay in good spirits for most of it. Having a great partner has made it so much easier! And your wife is so lucky to have you by her side.
DFW
(54,476 posts)The treatments took the better part of a year. But she did beat it. This is round two, and the operation was much more serious.
I'm the lucky one to have her by my side. I'm also lucky enough to work for an outfit big enough to have people to step in for me and yet small enough to have the top guys tell me to take whatever time off I need to take care of her.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,761 posts)I hope beyond hope for excellent news.
Wish I could help, beyond these keystrokes.
for you both! ♥
progressoid
(50,011 posts)But I wish you and your lovely wife the best.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Beautiful picture.
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)beautiful woman, I am wishing you both the best.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,076 posts)I wish you and your wife the very best, and I wish I could help.
DFW
(54,476 posts)That helps plenty!
Fla Dem
(23,840 posts)hoping all goes well and she follows the family tradition of beating it and living into her 90's!
Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)There were 7 polyps in her colon. They, along with everything they removed, "looked" non-malignant, but then so did the sample that turned out to be malignant that warranted this whole mess in the first place. They also looked at several key points that are apparently indicative of trouble elsewhere, and they were unaffected.
Everything was sent to the lab for biopsy. If they're quick, we find out Friday. If not, then Monday.
She was very tired. It was a heavy surgery, and took its toll. She was pale and weak, but basically in as good spirits as could be expected. One of her doctors (not the head surgeon) said she took it like a trooper, and was well enough not to need time in intensive care, but rather, after waking up, was brought right back to her room. They said that after such heavy surgery, that doesn't happen often, especially not in someone 64 years old. I spent a little over an hour with her, but she needed rest, and I left back for Ratingen around 7:15. The hospital is in Düsseldorf-Kaiserswerth.
I'll look in on her tomorrow, of course. She is not out of the woods until we hear that all biopsies were negative, and that is by no means a given. If there is no further malignancy, there is a decent chance she will escape chemo this time, which is the one thing she does NOT want to go through again. Because of all the polyps, she will require a colonoscopy once a year for the foreseeable future--unpleasant, but the least of our worries if all else is well. Again, we don't know that, but under the circumstances, a little optimism is permitted. Not time for celebration yet, but guarded optimism.
For those who are newer here and don't know much about her, here is a photo taken in my erstwhile hometown of Barcelona when she was 46. It best reflects her attitude and personality, which as California Peggy and Lionel Mandrake will confirm, is a beacon of positive thinking and kindness toward all:
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I won't know any more until tomorrow.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Solly Mack
(90,795 posts)Keep us posted, please.
The wait. I hated the wait.
Leaving us in limbo like this is cruel and unusual punishment
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,761 posts)Guarded optimism will just have to do, for now.
I'm glad she did well enough to not need ICU monitoring.
The photo is great and truly reflects her positive kind self! Lionel joins me in wishing her the best possible outcome!
for you both...
Till tomorrow...
DFW
(54,476 posts)So you know how special she truly is.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,761 posts)She is a treasure.
DFW
(54,476 posts)For once, my/our crazy schedule led us to your corner of the planet, and THAT was a chance we were NOT going to pass up.
She is indeed a treasure, and one I plan to hang onto as long as fate is willing to permit.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,761 posts)Next time you must stay with us!
I hope you both will.
DFW
(54,476 posts)THEN we'll start in again with making travel plans!
Pathwalker
(6,600 posts)Wishing her a full recovery and many long, happy years for you both. Hugs from across the pond for you both.
DFW
(54,476 posts)I've never known it to do any harm!
redwitch
(14,952 posts)Amazing that she didn't have to be in ICU, she is one tough cookie! Sending my prayer for her healing, may the wind carry it to her across the ocean. Hang in there my friend! Waiting for results is so stressful.
DFW
(54,476 posts)At first, I didn't know if it meant the surgeon was happy with how things went, or if he considered it a hopeless case, but, I quickly found out it was the former.
Now it's hurry up and wait. We HATE that part.
elleng
(131,290 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)We are just looking forward, as if this were another glitch, like the last bout of cancer she had.
If we're wrong, there will be plenty of time to yell in rage.
ailsagirl
(22,904 posts)LeftInTX
(25,716 posts)I will keep both of you in my thoughts and prayers.
DFW
(54,476 posts)Thanks for posting!
rurallib
(62,477 posts)hibbing
(10,112 posts)I have always enjoyed your posts.
Peace
DFW
(54,476 posts)And thanks for the kind words. Your sentiments are definitely NOT universally shared!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,946 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)But it would wreck me, too, if I lost her, so that's just not an outcome we are listing among the possibilities right now.
blue neen
(12,335 posts)I hope your wife feels better very soon and that you get the news you most want to hear---that she is healed.
It's tough. Our adult son is having a horrible health problem right now. So frightening and stressful.
I always enjoy reading your "voice of reason" views here. Logic and reason can sometimes be in slow supply.
It's so strange how we can be calm in the face of major crisis, isn't it?
DFW
(54,476 posts)Calm in the face of crisis isn't always a sign of fortitude (at least on my part). It's sometimes just the only option left.
My best wishes for your son. I know health care in the States can be very lopsided, and sometimes very scary. Our elder daughter had a thyroid tumor, and she lives some 4000 miles away from us. My wife flew over to be with her during her operation to remove it. The hospital wanted to toss her out the day of the operation, and everyone, including her surgeon went ballistic. I think she would have collapsed and died if they had done that and she was on her own. Even then, they only kept her overnight. My wife had a similar operation here in Germany, and they kept her in the hospital for 6 days to make sure all was well. Health care seems to be a very yin-yang thing in Germany and the States. In the States, the doctors seem to care a lot more than they do here, but due to how the whole financing structure, the system doesn't care at all. Here in Germany, it's the opposite. The system, while not perfect (and not everyone is covered), is set up to take maximum care of patients, but things take longer (sometimes much longer) because the doctors don't care.
denbot
(9,901 posts)Our most sincerest wishes for a successful treatment from my family to yours.
DFW
(54,476 posts)I was with her again today, and she was much stronger, could take a few steps by herself.
The worst part is that they keep us waiting for the biopsy results, and since there were none today, not we hear nothing until Monday at the earliest. There about 20 friends that want to come by and visit and about 50 more that want to call. I am not the only one that knows what a special person she is, it seems.
But her inner strength is keeping her looking better from one day to the next. If the biopsies are clean, it'll be a big moral boost, just as the opposite will be an equally horrible setback.
So, it's hurry up and wait, as horrible as that is.