The Walking Dead 7.6 "Swear" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

A familiar face stumbles upon a brand new society. Their rules, location and setup are unlike anything that has been seen before.

[NewJeffCT]

1. a few memes

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[Baitball Blogger]

2. Wonderful!

[Baitball Blogger]

3. This is a translation of what Corey Hawkins was really saying:

"Hey, Mofos, I scored the lead in the next Jack Bauer spin-off so you can take this Heath character and do what you did to my boy Glenn."

Glenn spared him from killing that sleeping Saviour. There's nothing for him to come back to. Which makes it hard for Tara, because she has to make it back on her own.

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Straight Outta Compton and The Walking Dead's Corey Hawkins Starring in 24: Legacy

Corey Hawkins, who played Dr. Dre in Straight Outta Compton and can currently be seen as Heath on The Walking Dead, has been cast as the male lead in FOX's Jack Bauer-less 24 spinoff, 24: Legacy.

According to Entertainment Weekly, Hawkins will play former Army Ranger Eric Carter, who's now working with the CTU (Counter Terrorist Unit)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/25/straight-outta-compton-and-the-walking-deads-corey-hawkins-starring-in-24-legacy

[NewJeffCT]

4. interesting

According to Spoiling Dead Fans... [font color=white]Heath is in tonight's episode, but it's not clear what happens to him in terms of living or dying. However, on their Facebook page, they also list it as the only episode in which Heath appears this season. [/font]

[NewJeffCT]

5. Some recent articles

I doubt this is true:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evidence-carl-grimes-will-die-on-the-walking-dead_us_58385b91e4b000af95ee1fc6

ratings slide:
http://bgr.com/2016/11/27/walking-dead-ratings-drop-season-7/

speculation on the next deaths:
http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-walking-dead-who-will-die-spencer-heath-olivia-simon/

easy street:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/features/7587904/walking-dead-easy-street-jim-bianco-petra-haden-collapsable-hearts-club

[Iggo]

9. Re: Ratings slide.

Last week one of my coworkers said, "They lied."

I was all, "Who lied?"

"The Walking Dead lied."

"Lied about what?"

"Remember when they said the season premier was going to be intense, but the rest of the season was going to be even more intense?"

"Yep."

"They lied."

[NewJeffCT]

10. to be honest

I thought the show lost a lot of the intensity at the very start by having us wait 20 minutes until they showed Abraham and Glenn being killed.

So far, they've had some great and intense moments since episode 1, but they've been moments in 60 minute episodes. I also really think the show suffers by focusing on one location each week. With Game of Thrones, other than a few big episodes, they show us all the different locations each week, save maybe one. With TWD, it's the opposite, they show us mostly one location each week so entire story lines are dropped for 2, 3 or 4 weeks or more. It makes for disjointed storytelling. Carol and Morgan at the Kingdom was episode 2... we're now on episode 6 with nothing on either of them since. Tara and Heath return last night, and how many are even going to remember that we haven't seen them since the end of last season? If the episode focuses on Tara and Heath, do we even see Morgan, Carol, Shiva and Ezekiel this week? How about next week? So, all the excitement over Shiva and Ezekiel is lost because they're gone for at least 4 episodes.

Sorry to rant here, but this has been an issue I've had since they had that season 4 cliffhanger and then didn't resolve it to go to two "Governor" bottle episodes. They could have told us that same Governor's story in 10-12 minute clips each week over the first 7 or 8 episodes of the season and it would have been more effective, IMHO.

[Iggo]

11. And remember, this ain't Netflix. Four episodes is a month.

I remember I haven't seen Carol in a month, but until you mentioned it right now, I completely forgot about Ezekiel.

[bettyellen]

16. Yeah. Was just talking about this issue and also the formula-stumble on a new group, rocky start

Gets resolved, a bit of calm stuff, maybe new characters or romance. Then a zombie invasion or clash with another group happens, they all split up- for a season or longer?!? And I'm losing the plot.


I miss carol and what's his name. Don't care tons for the people in the main group and they're boring me.

[NewJeffCT]

19. Yes, the formula is getting repetitive as well

The comics are better at maintaining a cohesive overall story, but even they got pretty formulaic in the end. I stuck with them through All Out War, but lost interest when they got to The Whisperers - the next group of bad guys.

[Solly Mack]

6. I want Negan neutralized in short order. I do NOT want a 2 year time jump.

[NewJeffCT]

7. I'm guessing that Negan is going to be around for a while

Other than spoilers for tonight's episode, I am guessing that after the mid season finale, they will move to the "All Out War" story line from the comics. Or, maybe the finale will end with Rick declaring all out war?

The Governor was introduced at the start of season 3 on TWD, and he was around until the season 4 midseason finale. Negan first appeared at the end of the season 6 finale, so I am guessing that he'll be around until the season 8 midseason finale at least?

[Solly Mack]

8. His being around is OK - as long as he is neutralized as a threat. Much like in the comic.

Though a lot of people do want the character killed off.

I do, too - if they are going to drag the whole Negan as overlord story out for more than a season.

I'd like to see JDM integrated into the show, though I can see the problems with that. Fans want Maggie to kill him.

But one of the themes of the show is redemption, so...

[suffragette]

12. Glad to see you back, Jeff!

As usual, I won't be able to comment on the show until I see it on Monday, but wanted to pop into the thread and say 'Hi.'

[NewJeffCT]

13. thanks

After the election loss and the DU Hack, my Sunday nights felt empty without these threads.

[suffragette]

14. The DU version of the gathering of the family around the table for Thanksgiving.

Missed DU much during the down time.
We at least have that to be thankful for, the return of a place in which we can gather and share.

[bettyellen]

17. Love this! Missed the both of you too!

[suffragette]

18. Hi Betty! I'll pop back in the thread on Monday after I watch.

Good to see ya.

[Iris]

22. Indeed. It took me a second to figure out what was missing but then I realized it was this. n/t

[NewJeffCT]

15. a few more articles

another on the ratings - #5 is what I mention above:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/11/27/five-reasons-why-the-walking-deads-ratings-are-crashing-to-season-3-levels/#693af8976041

Michael Rooker on Merle vs Negan:
http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2016/11/21/walking-dead-negan-vs-merle-michael-rooker/

Steve Ogg/Simon:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/11/21/gta-5s-steven-ogg-is-outshining-negan-and-dwight-on-the-walking-dead/#637d79333cab

[NewJeffCT]

20. almost time

I just finished watching my recording of Game of Thrones "Battle of the Bastards"

should be interesting

[NewJeffCT]

21. interesting change of pace

two young women with spears on the water - ocean? They find Tara unconscious by the water.

[NewJeffCT]

23. so, they drag Tara out of the sun

and behind a fallen tree so she at least isn't too exposed.

[NewJeffCT]

24. So, Tara stumbles into a town with all women

must be a dream come true for her.

[Iris]

25. I was thinking same. Wondering if it is just a dream.

[NewJeffCT]

26. then, Tara gets caught in a walker avalanche

that was an interesting take

[Iris]

27. Did Heath run? n/t

[NewJeffCT]

28. looks that way

or, is he going to circle around and try to save her?

[Baitball Blogger]

29. I don't think he tried too hard.

But then, he isn't a harden fighter either.

Bet you, bet you, that this camp of women shot Heath. Maybe Cindy did it, and it wasn't a clean shot?

[NewJeffCT]

30. I missed the map

and the picture - I assume she's somewhere near Virginia Beach?

[Iris]

31. The filming was in Jekyll Island, GA.

But at this point in the comics, aren't they near Washington, DC?

[NewJeffCT]

32. Yes

they're near DC. Alexandria the city is right on the outskirts, and I assume that Alexandria is near there (the comics do feature them going into DC a few times)

[Baitball Blogger]

33. This Tara episode is turning out pretty good.

[NewJeffCT]

34. It was some good character development

and, maybe some potential future allies? Seems like maybe Heath got away.

[Baitball Blogger]

35. Who is PPP?

[NewJeffCT]

36. did I miss something?

I seemed to miss a few things tonight? PPP?

[Baitball Blogger]

37. She picked up a card from the ground next to the tire marks.

White card with the Letters: PPP

It's the moment she felt that Heath had escaped and survived.

[Iris]

38. It looked like a hotel key or security swipe card

[NewJeffCT]

39. interesting

I posted in another group online about it, but they didn't seem to know either.

[Iris]

40. This is crazy but it made me think of Fear the Walking Dead

because of the hotel they stayed in briefly

[Goblinmonger]

41. I think more security swipe card than hotel key

It had the hole for putting it on an ID card like the one I have to get into my school where I teach.

[Goblinmonger]

42. They asked the actress that plays Tara on Talking Dead

and she said only Scott Gimple knows.

[Goblinmonger]

43. I'm not impressed with this season

It lacks focus and intensity.

They told us that the first episode would be intense but the rest would be more intense. That was just a bald-faced lie. I get the point of trying to make us feel disconnected since that is how the characters must feel, but this is just silly. This is paced like you could binge watch it on Netflix. How many weeks has it been since Ezekial? I mean, I've pretty much forgotten about him. And the whole point of this episode is to introduce a likely minor group of people and show that the Saviors have a wide reach. We needed 60 minutes for that?

[NewJeffCT]

44. I'm starting to agree with you

As I said above, there have been some great moments since the season premiere, but they've been moments within 60 minute episodes.

Ezekiel, Shiva, Morgan and fan-favorite Carol were in episode 2 and have not been seen or heard from since. According to Spoiling Dead, they will not be around in episode 7, either.

It would have worked better if:
Episode 2: Carol wakes up in the Kingdom, talks a bit with Morgan, and then he wheels her around the village, ending with the two of them going in to meet Ezekiel. (Cut to Alexandria, or Hilltop, or even Oceanside)

Episode 3: We see some Kingdom people giving walker fed pigs to The Saviors and Morgan trains a guy with the staff. Carol and Ezekiel meet Ezekiel and Shiva and talk a bit. (Cut to The Sanctuary and Daryl in his cell)

Episode 4: Carol tries to pilfer a few things, but then meets Zeke and has a more serious talk where we get more of his backstory and Shiva's backstory. Cut to The Sanctuary or Alexandria)

Episode 5: Carol tells Morgan she has to leave, but then she goes to that house just outside the kingdom. Ezekiel comes by and offers her some fruit. And, for fuck's sake, have Shiva pounce on a stray walker so we can see what he can do! They took the time to show us Negan bashing in a walker's head with a huge wooden lamp stand, why not this?

Then, you can drop Carol/Morgan/Ezekiel/Shiva location for a single week.

[suffragette]

45. I like that they are showing more communities with different ways of existing, but

Agree with you that it would be better if they flipped between these a bit within the same episode.

It could make for interesting contrast and comparison as well.

[Solly Mack]

46. I finally got around to watching. I needed a nap.

I'm glad Tara didn't tell.

Rosita needs to get a grip.

My goodness, what damaged children there be.

Dr Dre is gone.

[MosheFeingold]

47. Hate to inject politics

But I was mad at the last episode with the gun confiscation -- Negan using the gun inventory to make sure he confiscated all the weapons of the Alexandria group.

This was pretty clearly an anti-gun registry dog whistle -- "look, a registry leads to confiscation."

Unnecessary to the plot.