N.J. community is debating removal of Jefferson's name from an elementary school.

[3Hotdogs]

So far, none of the pro/anti arguments were breaking new territory or offering new insight until the argument that Malcom X's Autobio should be banned because he was a burglar, racist, pro-violent and disrespect of women.


I'll try to keep you posted.

[Irish_Dem]

1. No No. He is a genius who wrote one of the most important documents in the history of the world.

The Declaration of Independence is a scared document.

It established for the first time in world history a new nation based on the First Principles of the rule of law, unalienable rights, limited government, the Social Compact, equality, and the right to alter or abolish oppressive government.

[yonder]

2. George Jefferson? Though somehow I know the real answer

What are they trying to replace it with, Don Drumpf Elementary?

[no_hypocrisy]

3. I've seen towns name all their schools after Presidents.

Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt.

[3Hotdogs]

5. Neighboring town has Warren G. Harding school.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. If we're going to split hairs over imperfect Presidents,

you might as well re-name schools named after Lincoln. He wanted to deport slaves to Liberia.


Impressed by the strength of anti-black racism, especially in his home states of Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky, Lincoln concluded because whites would never allow blacks to live in America as equals, they would be better off migrating voluntarily to a colony outside the United States, ideally in Central America or the Caribbean.[37] He had little faith in the program of the American Colonization Society, whose goal was to colonize American blacks in Liberia, on the West African coast. In a speech at Peoria, Illinois[38] (transcribed after the fact by Lincoln himself),[37]:b Lincoln pointed out the immense difficulties of such a task are an obstacle to finding an easy way to quickly end slavery.[37]:c [39] In a debate in August 1858, he said:[40][41]

If all earthly power were given to me [...] my first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment's reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible.

According to historian Paul Escott, Lincoln thus favored a system of gradual emancipation that would allow for controlled management of free Negroes.[41]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln_and_slavery

[Hoyt]

4. It is true that Jefferson wrote of "freedom," then went home to beat/rape his slaves. n/t