Led Zeppelin Examples of Plagiarism

[dipsydoodle]

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[Iggo]

1. Yep.

And I still like them.

[Trajan]

2. Every 'genre' songwriter is a plagiarist

Unless you create a completely new form of music that has never been heard before - You are plagiarizing someone else ....

To use a single cliche would be as well .... Listeners expect some regularity in their 'favorite' genres ... The art is in how one twists an original thread within a framework of cliche themes .. Tweaking it just enough to bring original color and treatment, but with the instruments and settings one expects from a jazz piece, or a country piece, or a guitar rock piece, or a punk rock piece, or a blues piece, or a classical piece, or a bluegrass piece, or a rockabilly piece, or an industrial rap piece, or a folk piece ...

Guitarists share riffs .... It has always been that way .... We LIKE it that way .... We repeat them, and we twist them up how we like ....

[saras]

3. There is a WIDE variety in how much they get changed...

There's adapting a riff, or a lyric phrase, or even a tune...

and then there's karaoke, Bring It On Home, and My Sweet Lord

Oh, and the Good Times, Bad Times riff is REALLY ANNOYING.

And a couple of those are adapted enough to get away with, though most aren't. It's all about the copyrights.

[limpyhobbler]

4. I have mixed feelings on this.

On the one hand I think music should be "free" and people should be able to play whatever they want, copy whatever. On the other hand I always get the impression the first couple generations of rock stars were sort of "ripping off" the blues musicians. The same goes for the Beatles, Stones, Elvis, etc. I'm sure they were just playing the music they loved. And it's not like Led Zep, the Beatles and the Stones didn't make it their own or create something original. They clearly did. But I think it seems even worse because especially with rock music in the 50s and 60s, it was still during the days of segregation and more racism than we have now. And the people being "stolen" from were often Black Americans, who never really had a chance to make bigger money off of their music before it was sort of stolen away.

[dipsydoodle]

5. Black to white

I think you'll recognise this.

In terms of general "lifting" of riffs :

Rock Around the Clock was Joe Avery's Piece/Victory Bounce from 1946 and Old Joe Clark is Bach Possibly the biggest ripoff was Glen Miller's In The Mood which was clearly Wingy Manone's earlier Tar Paper Stomp

[limpyhobbler]

6. Bull Doze Blues, First thing I thought was

sounds like the Grateful Dead gdtrfb, or very close to it. Then I googled it and found out it Canned Heat covered it as Going Up the Country. Go to say I like the Henry Thomas version better than the Canned Heat version.

Nothing new under the sun it seems.