Music Appreciation
Related: About this forumstill down the irish music rabbit hole..
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&list=RDAV1MrOPt0pg&index=1mitch96
(13,895 posts)Most pubs have great music and the people are "grand"... I went from pub to pub, had a Guinness or two and listened to the great music.. You can't keep your feet still...
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mopinko
(70,099 posts)def on my list.
gonna stay at kinnity castle. gonna talk to the haints.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)heard the term, but dont know what it refers to.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)A plumber was bending over, or it was a drug thing but, no...
Too bad Matt Malloy's and all the other pubs in Westport are closed b/c of the virus.. It would be great to hear the Chieftains play. The last time I was there we were sitting in the second room in a corner. Just jabbering away with some nice folk. They then start pulling out a hand drum, a penny whistle and a violin..Turns out they were the entertainment for the nite. We just scootched over a bit and they let rip!!! Can't keep your feet still!
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mitch96
(13,895 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)working on learning the whistle. i got the drum pretty down.
i have the native american version but talking to an irish cousin about a swap for a proper bodrhan.
and learning the songs, by god. and looking up the ppl mentioned and learning my history looking up the names in the songs.
turns out i am a descendant of one of the sibs of michael dwyer.
went to the dentist today. my long time dentist has his son in his practice now, who i saw today.
but he told me to see his pops, and make sure i was the last of the day, and we could talk irish history. easy sell. had a crush on him forevaaaahhh.
asked if i should bring a flask. ans- well, he's not much of a drinker, but...
mitch96
(13,895 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)mitch96
(13,895 posts)I get the stuff imported from the old sod... I must admit the a fresh drawn pint on top of the
Gravity bar in St James gate is delish...Comes with the price of admission too!! IF you get a chance take the self guided tour, it's great. This is a shot from the bar looking at Trinity College...
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mopinko
(70,099 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)and i watched a doc about him. one of the other dubliners said- ppl used to bet about whether he would blow his voice out.
he said the irish sound comes from the voice in the roof of the mouth, and that luke belted it out his nose. he said bono had it.
well, i sang along w him and can confirm.
he said- blow his voice w drink, yes. but singing? never.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)But loved the richness of Luke Kellys voice and the emotion he brought to each song he sang.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)but i cleared up my muscle issues, and now my voice i quite clear.
i did 12 yrs of catholic school, 9 w singing lessons. boy did the nuns make us sing.
i was in the frosh choir. a flat alto. i was invited not to be in the soph choir.
but, yeah, clear as a bell now.
and what a joy.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)I love to listen, Phil Coulter, Luke Kelly, Sean Fleming in the 80s and 90s put on a great fun show. There was a fiddler in DC who was amazing, Brendan the Fiddler.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)gotta learn all the drinking songs.
gonna try to pass. at least in the pubs.
my ex remarried an irish cop from donnybrook. she says the folk dont take to americans who think they are irish. but i have compared my dna to cousins who live there. and yeah, more irish than most of them.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)From Boston to about Richmond/ Norfolk va
mitch96
(13,895 posts)Countys in Ireland!! I've met a few gents that have "made their fortune" in the states and then moved back to live like gentleman sheep farmers...
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mopinko
(70,099 posts)how dare they!
mitch96
(13,895 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)mrs murphy's. the dream of an irish cop brought to life by his kids.
they have a big patio. connected to a big folkie bar. they have a lot of irish bands.
gonna hang out there when this plague settles down.
i'm reliably informed that in the irish pubs, if you are a regular, you have your song, and when you come it, you are expected to sing it.
i just wanna have fun w it.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)i esp love this one, as my ggramps was on of those soldiers.
i love this one for the line- and the natural gas'll burn your ass, and blow ya all to hell.
and this one, as i am a descendant of a sibling of michael dwyer, the chief of wiklow, who ended up on a ship to botany bay.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)love that one.
i had no idea the ira went back that far.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The detail of the song falls apart on close examination, but it is still a fine song. I believe ity was composed by Brendan Behan's brother.
Here's a more cheerful one....
mopinko
(70,099 posts)michael dwyer.
i visited the grave of my dwyer relatives today. my ggreat grandparents.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)that sibling harmony is a real thing.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)mitch96
(13,895 posts)The history of the oppressed people in Ireland is fascinating. Another story of wealthy people shitting on the poor and down trodden for the sake of profits.
Lots of good movies about it also...
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mopinko
(70,099 posts)same ppl did the same shit to the native americans.
i need to figure this one out-
my ggrandpa was in a british unit in the army. was in 20 yrs, left a sgt in the dublin rifles.
somehow he ended up coming here in steerage as a famine refugee 20 yrs later.
i cant wrap my head around that. i just cant.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Through a character in 'Man and Superman':
"When a country is full of food and exporting it, there can be no famine."
That is literally what was occurring. Grain and beef were being shipped by contract to England, there was plenty of food in Ireland. It should not have made such a difference that the potato crop was blighted, and it did not have to slay a soul that it did.
mopinko
(70,099 posts)i have a foaf that is an irish history expert. she says the land grab goes all the way back to napoleon.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)An interesting saying came out of this.... "taking the soup" . The oh so righteous Protestant bible society would stave off your hunger and death if you converted to "their" religion. If not, fuck y'all and die. Their idea of holiness....... So to stay alive the alternative would be "taking the soup" and forgo your religion... grrrrr...
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mopinko
(70,099 posts)about a priest who defied the order. got excommunicated.
i would rly love to know the details on my ggramps. he had 3 kids, and worked as a laborer.
i thought he might have been a tenant farmer that got bought off.
not sure if he came here in paper chains or not.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)gonna have that one in the act, fersher.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)mopinko
(70,099 posts)i just want to sing in the pubs when i get there.
but somebody in this thread was talking about the job market for irish musicians.
it would be fun. i do love singing these songs.
i'll be happy to be paid in pints, tho.
yonder
(9,664 posts)Thankfully, I haven't found my way out of it yet, nor had the inclination to try. I'm mostly a fiddler but would say the whistle is a good place to start with which you can get some chops.
One of the cool things, is you can go almost anywhere in the world, find a session and be able to share at least a few common tunes. Reels, jigs, hornpipes, polkas & slides, some airs and a few waltzes (in about that order) can take you anywhere. There's a website called The Session which is a great place to share tunes, questions, etc.
Welcome to the ITM club, mopinko!
mopinko
(70,099 posts)there is a band from my hometown, aurora il, about 40 miles from chicago, called montez de durango. now, i live in a very mexicano hood, and live band for big parties are a thing.
a lot of the neighbors hate it, but they never bothered me. caujunto is basically just mexican polka.
in my family there is no such thing as a wedding w/o a couple polkas.
well, these guy play those songs at about double time, and their fans invented a dance they call 'the little step from durango'. it's double time, but it is also up close. very sexy.
when my voice teacher said once- when you are performing- i laughed out loud.
i sing along w ella fitzgerald to practice. i told him- dude, i have to pay you to listen to me sing.
my voice used to be very flat. my kids not only wouldnt let me sing, they wouldnt let me hum.
but it turned out to be neuro issues. i had a bad head injury as a kid that made my vocal chords tight, and gave me other muscle spasms. but thank ja's herb, that all went away.
could never play an instrument either, cuz i was left/right retarded and didnt have independent control of my fingers. also all gone.
so, besides voice, he is also giving me piano lessons.
i am pretty good w my little hand drum, too. it's the native american version of the bodrhan.
and now the idea of singing in irish pubs doesnt seem quite so crazy.
eta- thanks for the welcome and the tip.
post some of your faves, eh?