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Eric Clapton - Walkin' Blues (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2022 OP
Love it! Thanks for posting this! highplainsdem Feb 2022 #1
What is the obsession with Eric Clapton on DU? Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #2
Sigh. Here we go again. See this thread: highplainsdem Feb 2022 #3
Yes - here we go again! Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #4
You're not required to listen to or comment on any music posted here. I've seen posts here about highplainsdem Feb 2022 #5
I know I am not required to comment, but Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #7
I'm not the only one here who appreciates his music. I didn't post this OP or the one on "Layla" highplainsdem Feb 2022 #9
I just did a search of the forum and discovered you'd complained about "Layla," too, and highplainsdem Feb 2022 #6
Yep! Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #8
Racist piece of shit. Lunabell Feb 2022 #10
You've posted here in the past about your admiration for John Lennon, who's admitted highplainsdem Feb 2022 #11
Lennon made up for his crap. Lunabell Feb 2022 #12
That's debatable. I don't think either of them should be highplainsdem Feb 2022 #13
Thank you for mansplaining this to me. Lunabell Feb 2022 #14
LOL! As a woman and a feminist, I've never been accused of "mansplaining" before. I'm highplainsdem Feb 2022 #15
Clapton is still a racist pos Lunabell Feb 2022 #16
Again, that's debatable. I don't think people in this group have any right to tell others which highplainsdem Feb 2022 #17
Well, maybe I will go in the Pets group Lunabell Feb 2022 #18
I guess that would go with this comment you posted in your profile: highplainsdem Feb 2022 #19
Wow, you are really doubling down on the defend Clapton thing. Lunabell Feb 2022 #20
I'm defending appreciating his music. And that's ALL it says about me. highplainsdem Feb 2022 #21
Sure.Whatever you think. Lunabell Feb 2022 #22
 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
4. Yes - here we go again!
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 12:01 AM
Feb 2022

He is talented - so what? Trump is rich - so what? Guiliani was Mayor - so what? They are all disgusting, why can't you appreciate them on your own time, why do you have to force them into our faces? I don't get it?

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
5. You're not required to listen to or comment on any music posted here. I've seen posts here about
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 12:04 AM
Feb 2022

music I don't like by artists I don't admire. I don't feel compelled to take a verbal dump on those topics for that reason.

As was pointed out in the topic I linked to, this group is for MUSIC APPRECIATION.

 

Mary in S. Carolina

(1,364 posts)
7. I know I am not required to comment, but
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 12:15 AM
Feb 2022

I am allowed to comment...and I have. Just because you appreciate the music of a racist piece of sh.t does not mean we all want to hear about it.

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
9. I'm not the only one here who appreciates his music. I didn't post this OP or the one on "Layla"
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 12:27 AM
Feb 2022

you also felt you had to critique.

I'm so glad most people here don't feel they have to weigh in if they don't like a particular artist or song.

Artists in general are NOT politically correct. A lot of them have personal lives that wouldn't take the kind of scrutiny we here at DU like to give politicians, especially RW politicians. A lot of them have political views, and business relationships, that also wouldn't stand up to intense critical scrutiny.

But we're not looking for saints here, political or otherwise.

We're appreciating MUSIC.

And we have diverse tastes.

And because of that, it's usually a good idea to accept that other people have a right to like art and artists you don't like.

So far we DON'T have a group here for Complaining About Other People's Lamentable Taste In Music And Musicians.

But maybe you could start one?

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
6. I just did a search of the forum and discovered you'd complained about "Layla," too, and
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 12:13 AM
Feb 2022

offered the interesting hypothesis that it was about Clapton's lust for Trump.

Sigh...

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
11. You've posted here in the past about your admiration for John Lennon, who's admitted
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 03:08 AM
Feb 2022

he physically abused women.

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/happy-birthday-john-lennon-re-examining-a-flawed-icon/


In this era of moral reckoning, when many men who were once regarded as heroes are currently considered unforgivably flawed, what can be said of John Lennon? Lennon, who has now been dead for nearly as long as he lived, would have turned 80 Oct. 9. How does the ex-Beatle hold up as a figure worthy of hero status when seen through the modern prisms of #MeToo, Black Lives Matter and liberal woke culture?

Lennon’s critics, of which there has never been any shortage, can point to his many failings as husband, father, son and friend, not to mention his alcohol and drug abuse, anti-social behavior and treatment of women. In the song “Getting Better ” Paul McCartney laments, “I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved.” Sir Paul wasn’t singing about himself.

Not long before he died, Lennon admitted he wrote the lyrics. “I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically — any woman. I used to be cruel to my woman … I was a hitter … I fought men, and I hit women. That is why I always go on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace … I am a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face how I treated women as a youngster.”

-snip-



As I've said elsewhere here, this group is for appreciatimg music -- the art that's been created.

There are no perfect artists.

They're all human. They all have flaws.

And it's a needless distraction from the purpose of this forum to point out the flaws in the character of artists others like but you don't, when I assume you wouldn't want them doing the same to your favorite artists.

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
13. That's debatable. I don't think either of them should be
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:25 AM
Feb 2022

worshipped. But they both created some music that can be appreciated, and that IS the point of this group.

I would not want to see every thread here that mentions John Lennon's music include replies focusing on his flaws.

And I think people who appreciate Eric Clapton's music - and the Beatles did - deserve equal consideration and respect.

Otherwise, you're completely missing the point of this group.

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
15. LOL! As a woman and a feminist, I've never been accused of "mansplaining" before. I'm
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 03:39 PM
Feb 2022

simply explaining. And I hope that even if you don't get it, others will.

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
16. Clapton is still a racist pos
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 03:57 PM
Feb 2022

And yes, he does need to be canceled. John more than made up for his past. Clapton doubled down. Talent is wasted on him and he does not deserve a place of honor on Democratic Underground.

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
17. Again, that's debatable. I don't think people in this group have any right to tell others which
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 04:03 PM
Feb 2022

music they're allowed to appreciate.

And I saw using Search that you've done that in the past and even (apparently) got one person to delete an OP.

I hope that won't happen again.

Maybe you should start an Approved-By-Lunabell group, where you won't have to be upset by someone liking music created by an artist you don't like.

highplainsdem

(48,978 posts)
19. I guess that would go with this comment you posted in your profile:
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 04:39 PM
Feb 2022
Don't expect me to be nice just because I am a liberal. I am kind of bitchy with an attitude problem.
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