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Wow! Walking Dead-last episode. Don't enter thread if you haven't seen it. (Original Post) trumad Oct 2015 OP
Don't most major characters die twice? yallerdawg Oct 2015 #1
Actually there have been several. trumad Oct 2015 #2
If you watched "The Talking Dead"... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #3
I'm glad I haven't read the novels. trumad Oct 2015 #4
Well ... dr.strangelove Oct 2015 #6
The only way that won't piss me off as a cheap tactic Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #7
Wait, wait, wait... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #8
Yes, they have gotten through zombie herds before. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #9
Check out Episode 2, "Guts." yallerdawg Oct 2015 #10
I get the possible symmetry Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #11
I thought it was a great episode. Goblinmonger Oct 2015 #5
One last thing... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #12
Snap out of it Glenn trumad Oct 2015 #13
Happy Halloween! yallerdawg Oct 2015 #14

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. If you watched "The Talking Dead"...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:54 AM
Oct 2015

you know this is not over.

If you are a fan of the graphic novel series, you know there is a much better ending in store for us!

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
4. I'm glad I haven't read the novels.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:24 PM
Oct 2015

It's a damn good show. Just when you think it's going a bit slow....it kicks you in the ass.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
6. Well ...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:22 AM
Oct 2015

I do read the novels, and love them, but there is no guarentee that Nagan will be introduced in the same way, or with the same specific death, as in the comic.

We are at the point where so many people in the TV world are different from their comic counterpart, that anything could happen. I would hope Nagen is introduced in a similar way, as he deserves that, but maybe it will involve someone else. I think the role that was played by the person he killed is now played by another, in so many ways.

That said, I do not think a main character died this week. It looked like it, but I think he will have crawled under that dumpster and will be saved.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
7. The only way that won't piss me off as a cheap tactic
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

is if he is bit, but gets back to say goodbye to Maggie before he dies. Nobody gets out of that scenario without a bite. Kind of a parallel arch to Dave that didn't make it back. And, seriously, in the world of the zombie Apocalypse, I get that you tell Dave he's going to make it back, but you still take the note anyway.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Wait, wait, wait...
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 05:11 PM
Oct 2015

how have many of them gotten through zombie herds before?

Lots of blood and guts smeared all over them from an unwalking dead!

Like the last scene at the dumpster!

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
9. Yes, they have gotten through zombie herds before.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

Differences are:
1. Usually more than one of them to fight the walkers.
2. In the exceptions to that case (Tyreese), they were standing and mobile not lying on the ground underneath someone.
3. There was a means of escape. In this situation, there is a wall on one side, a fence with more walkers on the other side of it on two more sides, and roughly about 5 thousand walkers on the fourth side. There is no means for escape.
4. The people fighting the herds had a weapon that had longevity.

Let's say he is under Nick. And he is surrounded by roughly 50 walkers on all sides. Are they going to stop eating when they are done with Nick? "Well, that was a tasty treat; I'm stuffed."

I'm not saying someone as smart and capable as Glenn can't get out of this--though that is going to seriously test my limits of suspension of disbelief. I'm saying he can't get out without being bitten. No frickin' way. He's lying on the ground. He has someone on top of him (if he doesn't, then we know he's dead). He's stunned by the fall onto hard concrete after seeing someone first shoot himself in the head and currently being eating kind of alive on top of him. He has dozens of walkers all around him pressing down on the dead weight on top of him and dozens more walkers pressing in on the walkers eating Nick trying to get a bite of the fresh meat. And he's going to get out of that without so much as one of them biting him on the foot (because, what, Nick fell on top of him in such a fashion that he is perfectly covering Glenn 100?) or on his head that we saw is 100% exposed to the walkers around him?

If you can find someone getting out of herd in a situation even close to what Glenn is experiencing, I'll reconsider my position. But I've read all the comics and watched all the episodes, and I don't believe that exists.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
10. Check out Episode 2, "Guts."
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 08:00 PM
Oct 2015

Glenn did this.

Glenn rolls under dumpster covered in blood and entrails, he is gone to the walkers.

Then, he gets to meet Lucille!

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
11. I get the possible symmetry
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:22 PM
Oct 2015

but in episode 2, he takes great pains to cover himself in walker entails. In the most recent episode, he is covered in delicious fresh human blood. He won't be invisible like he was in "Guts."

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
5. I thought it was a great episode.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:51 PM
Oct 2015

If he isn't dead, it better be really damned special as to why he isn't. I have no problem watching a show in which any character could die. I don't know about watching a show where a character is on the ground surrounded by thousands of zombies doesn't die. And I don't care if Nick is on top of him--if he doesn't get at least bit in that scenario, I will agree with Lindelof on Talking Dead and call shenanigans.

Though I agree with the person upthread that his death in the comic is a MUCH better death that I was looking forward to. Though I understand that they need to mix things up (e.g. Carol is LONG dead by this point in the comics).

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
12. One last thing...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:05 PM
Oct 2015
Is Glenn alive...?

‘Walking Dead’ Producer Talks Latest Casualty: The Character We Knew ‘Is Dead’

Executive producer David Alpert on Glenn:

He has forgiven and embraced and given Nicholas every opportunity in the show to do the right thing, and almost at every point along the way, has paid the price for it. I feel like, regardless of what happened to Glenn, he paid a tremendous price for having been human to Nicholas, and that, to me, from an emotional point-of-view — whether or not Glenn is alive or dead or something else — the Glenn that we knew, the one that believed in the better side of humanity, I think is dead.
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