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Judge rules FL 15 week abortion ban unconstitutional (Original Post) OrlandoDem2 Jun 2022 OP
Won't last for long unless Crist can make up a bunch of ground FBaggins Jun 2022 #1
Elections have consequences. nt Wednesdays Jun 2022 #4
They will get an automatic stay when they file for appeal, and I'm sure they will appeal In It to Win It Jun 2022 #2
This is the same local judge who ruled against DeSantis' school mask anti-mandate FBaggins Jun 2022 #3
IMO In It to Win It Jun 2022 #5
The state Supreme Court's earlier decision FBaggins Jun 2022 #6
that... In It to Win It Jun 2022 #7
FL has depressed me over the last 20 years with their rightward shift... FBaggins Jun 2022 #8

FBaggins

(26,743 posts)
1. Won't last for long unless Crist can make up a bunch of ground
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 12:57 PM
Jun 2022

The three remaining Crist-appointed judges (not exactly progressives - he was a republican at the time) see their terms expire in January. An already-conservative court is bound to become overwhelmingly so by the time this case reaches them

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
2. They will get an automatic stay when they file for appeal, and I'm sure they will appeal
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

Then after that, the real battle begins

FBaggins

(26,743 posts)
3. This is the same local judge who ruled against DeSantis' school mask anti-mandate
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

The First District Court of Appeals overturned the ruling about two weeks later.

In It to Win It

(8,253 posts)
5. IMO
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

The real battle is at the state supreme court, because current state supreme court precedent says abortion is a right under the state constitution. Therefore, the Court of Appeals should uphold the trial judges decision because precedent should bind them like it did the trial court, and this is assuming that the trial judge made his decision based on current precedent and the state constitution because I don't think the decision has been published yet.

The state supreme court would have to overrule its current precedent.

Just by a function of law, they will get an automatic stay on appeal of the lower court's decision. All they have to do is file an appeal for now to get a stay. I'm sure the ACLU will request that the decision remain in effect until the appellate court makes its own decision. Then, in theory, the appellate should uphold the trial court's decision because they are bound by state supreme court precedent to do so. Then, we go to the state supreme court where the ACLU will somehow convince a court that has had 20 years of Republican appointments and electorally retained justices that the Court should uphold its current precedent.

FBaggins

(26,743 posts)
6. The state Supreme Court's earlier decision
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jun 2022

Has some reliance on Roe, but does evaluate the issue looking at just the state constitution as well. That ruling said that the state could restrict abortion after viability, could not restrict it during the first trimester - and then was a little fuzzy in between.

So they could rule without overturning the 1989 decision if they find enough in the statute that claims they're acting to protect the life/health of the mother (something about a period where it's safer to be pregnant than to abort)...

... or they too could overturn the earlier precedent. As I hinted above, if the state can stretch the decision out for six months, DeSantis might get to appoint three more judges (to the three he already picked).

FBaggins

(26,743 posts)
8. FL has depressed me over the last 20 years with their rightward shift...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:00 PM
Jun 2022

... but perhaps this will give Crist a kick of support that pulls him back into the race.

Then he gets to replace those three judges.

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