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mzteris

(16,232 posts)
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 04:56 PM Aug 2012

Question #2 - apartments NYC

Looking for legitimate situations. My son (responsible 18yo) has at least one - so far - person willing to share. They're hoping to find one or two others. Obviously, neither would qualify to sign a lease or anything - that will be on the parents, I guess.

Looking at some websites - either it's a rent from the individual - and how do you know it's legit? - or a broker who wants lots of $$ in fees and an income well beyond what all four parents make (well, I'm not sure about the other kid's parents - they may be loaded, but my son just thinks they're "well-off" (not rich). I'm pretty solidly middle class with debt and an ex who has a lot of debt and two families to support and makes semi ok $$, but never helps out beyond what he's required to by law - and usually not even that to tell the truth - okay wandering off-topic!!)

SO - since there's at least two of them they'd like an apt rather than renting a room unless there are two rooms or big enough for two? Though I'm given to understand most apts are very very tiny unless one has lots and lots of $$.

Where are good neighborhoods? Where are bad neighborhoods? He'll be commuting to lower middle Manhattan - we figure 45 minutes would be okay to commute, but less would be better.

I haven't been to NYC since I was 6 yo. He didn't leave Manhattan while taking classes this summer (stayed in a dorm). Any help, advice, comments - welcomed and appreciated.

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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
1. to commute to lower midtown there are many options
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 05:11 PM
Aug 2012

lots of students and young 20s live along the L train in Brooklyn -- Williamsburg.

(semi) affordable and mostly nice neighborhoods: Jackson Heights, Carrol Gardens, Morningside Heights/lower Harlem, Riverdale.
Nice but less affordable nabes: Murray Hill (east midtown), UWS, Chelsea, Upper Eastside.

I would look for a share with someone who already has a 2 or 3 bedroom place. This avoids broker fees and anyone who rented years back may have lower rent than the current market rates. Be careful on Craigslist as the scammers love it. If a deal seems to good to be true it probably is.

When I moved to the city I rented a hotel room by the week while I looked and it took me 7 weeks to find a place. It would have been less if I had taken a share right away instead of trying to get my own lease.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. especially for lower midtown -- something on the PATH trains
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 05:45 PM
Aug 2012

A couple more thoughts:

On craigslist and the search -- if the ad doesn't have a phone number it is likely to be a scam or just a waste of time. If anyone tells you they have "beautiful apartment" and they "just want someone who will take good care of it" while they are "doing missionary work in Africa" they are lying. A real apartment in Manhattan will rent in 4 hours. You have to be in the city, ready to see it, say yes and pay when you make the first phone call. They won't hold it or wait for you, especially if it is desirable and DON'T even think about renting something without seeing it first.

Sublets are another good option and may be shorter term than any lease deal would be.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. How about a sublet until he/they learn the ropes?
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

NYC ain't what it was 20 years ago much less when you were six, and the only way to really learn what's an acceptable neighborhood and apartment is to live there for a while.

My first place was a sublet for 6 months, a loft on Broadway near Bleeker.

That was perfect, it was long enough to feel secure without committing to a long lease, and the fees were reasonable.

I found it through Cooper Union's student affairs office, NYU and Columbia have similar.

The Village Voice used the be THE PLACE to go to look for ads.

For commuting to lower middle Manhattan, he/they can live anywhere on the island and be within 45 minutes: from Washington Heights down to the Battery, the subway is fantastic.

Good luck.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
3. I have a cousin (lawyer, practicing in NY city) and the rents were out of control. He is very happy
Sat Aug 4, 2012, 05:13 PM
Aug 2012

in Brooklyn..

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