American Atheists Work To Keep WTC Cross Out Of 9/11 Museum

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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Arguments were heard Thursday in a case brought by an atheist group against placing what’s known as the World Trade Center cross in the National September 11 Museum.

As WCBS 880′s Marla Diamond reported, the lawyer for the 9/11 museum, Mark Alcott, called the steel beam cross an artifact during oral arguments at the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals.

But American Atheists attorney Edwin Kagan called the 17-foot-tall crossed beams a religious symbol that only gives one story of the people who suffered and has no place on government-owned land. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey owns the site where the museum is located.
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Judge Reena Raggi said there are countless other religious artifacts on display at many museums. She asked the lawyer for the American Atheists if their goal was to censure history.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/06/american-atheists-work-to-keep-wtc-cross-out-of-911-museum/

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1. I don't have problem with the cross being there

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2. I don't either.

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3. I may have a piece of a piece of an exhibit there.

When I was doing a shoot of the debris at fresh kills we pulled a 6 pack of empty cans of reingold from (an I-beam)the original construction. We each kept one and the fellow from the museum took the rest for the Museum.

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4. Wow! They are still combing through the debris I understand.

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5. It wouldn't surprise me

I would imagine the steel is gone. Most went to India and some to USS New York.

[hrmjustin]

7. They kept some but most is gone now.

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9. Have you been there?

[hrmjustin]

11. Fresh Kills no but I have been to the WTC site.

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12. It was powerful to say the very least

To see those I-breams strewn around like ribbons. All that destruction. The smell of the fire everywhere.

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13. I was down at the wtc site days after it happened and I will never forget

the smell and the twisted metal.

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14. Yup me too.

I got there I think the 3rd day (with the press).

Will never forget that smell

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15. I watch those buildings come down from the pier here in Bay Ridge Brooklyn.

Was heartbreaking! I lost several friends and neighbors.

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16. I watched from Astoria

Lost a few myself

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17. I am sorry to hear that.

I was there that weekend before it happened.

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18. Likewise

I was Pennsylvania on a shoot on 9/10 and we wrapped late. So we drove back to the city and got in about 4 or so. My roommate came running in to my room (after first plane) screaming that the city was being bombed.

I told him that was a terrible joke had to get the hell out. He wouldn't leave until I got up and the rest is a sad history.

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19. My mother woke me up screaming that we were under attack. I thought she went nuts but then

looked out the window.

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20. I was living in the Bronx at the time, and the wind blew northward

for a few days after. I had to throw out my drapes from the smell.

The other memory is the armed soldiers lining the Henry Hudson Parkway afterwards.

Sorry about your friends and neighbors. I lost some too.

Such a terrible time.

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21. I remember that that they there was dust all lover the place here in Brooklyn.

That smell will never leave my memory.

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22. You all must have had it terribly there. And I know what you mean.

I hope I never have occasion to smell it again.

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23. I hope not either.

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6. Yikes! What are they going to do to the Cloisters!

I'm not religious, but I think the cross should be there. It helped many people who do believe and who had to deal with knee-deep death for months at a time.

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8. I think it should stay as well.

It is a part of the story now.

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10. Yes, that too.