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TexasTowelie

(112,162 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:25 AM Aug 2021

We don't owe the unvaccinated priority on hospital care

By Michael A. Smith, Editor -- The Galveston County Daily News


People have a right to reject vaccination against COVID-19; no question.

The question is how much responsibility does society have to prioritize health care for people who’ve made that risky personal decision.

That question will become more and more relevant if more and more people become seriously ill and demand more and more of limited health services.

It also highlights a strange paradox.

Among the main things driving the militant anti-vax bloc is a fear and loathing of the big evils — big government, big pharma, big tech, big this, big that, big the other thing — all of which, the theory argues, act in concert to beguile, befuddle and bamboozle the gullible into being vaccinated.

Read more: https://www.galvnews.com/opinion/editorials/free/article_218a58d6-9417-5731-ae60-c1010b819393.html
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We don't owe the unvaccinated priority on hospital care (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 2021 OP
I completely agree Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #1
I am thinking OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #7
Yes tempting, but also against medical ethics LeftInTX Aug 2021 #13
But OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #16
That is until the unvaccinated NEED a Doctor to save them. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #2
Selections (should) have consequences. flor-de-jasmim Aug 2021 #3
Except that doesn't hold true for other medical services FBaggins Aug 2021 #15
Yeah, I hear Tucker is gonna do a show about the evils of ICUs and ventilators. Girard442 Aug 2021 #4
Ugh, he used the rightwing phrase "health care consumers". area51 Aug 2021 #5
had me until 'foreign troll farms.' KG Aug 2021 #6
Russian troll farms are spreading anti-vax propaganda LeftInTX Aug 2021 #10
You should need a vaccine passport James48 Aug 2021 #8
Not a bad idea Sherman A1 Aug 2021 #12
A right to reject vaccination? bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #9
Did you read the article? LeftInTX Aug 2021 #11
They may have the right to not get vaccinated, but joshdawg Aug 2021 #14
disagree... markie Aug 2021 #17

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I completely agree
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:17 AM
Aug 2021

My thoughts are somewhat stronger on the topic of the anti vaccination 💉 /anti mask 😷 crowd and their ability to overwhelm our health care system both now and inevitably damaging it in the future, but I will keep those thoughts to myself.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
7. I am thinking
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:04 AM
Aug 2021

That it may be time to stop 'keeping those thoughts to myself'. This 'high road' that we seem to want to travel may be nicer at first, but if it doesn't lead anywhere... you see my point. But, I agree as well. If I were to continue to step in front of cars as they passed, one would think I would be appraised for competency... yet this is not happening to those who spout unprovable, non-scientific reasoning as to why they won't get the damn vaccine. (Spoiler alert: regardless of their stated motives, it is still all about 'owning the libs/smart people/society'... what a great excuse for making this last longer than it should as well as endangering innocents and those who legitimately cannot get the vaccine. But, no evaluations for competency on such people... interesting.)

LeftInTX

(25,305 posts)
13. Yes tempting, but also against medical ethics
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:31 AM
Aug 2021

In normal times, hospitals are full of people who have mistreated their bodies.....

OldBaldy1701E

(5,126 posts)
16. But
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:50 AM
Aug 2021

Their 'mistreatment' does not (normally) endanger others around them. Their mistreatment does not create a country-wide crisis. I think this situation is a little bit different. Please remember that these same people are willing to risk all children in the name of a little green piece of paper, as well as actively cheering for the deaths of any and all 'librul' Democrats from this illness.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
2. That is until the unvaccinated NEED a Doctor to save them.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:04 AM
Aug 2021

With the very science they REJECTED in the first place.

I believe in Karma.

FBaggins

(26,733 posts)
15. Except that doesn't hold true for other medical services
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:43 AM
Aug 2021

We don’t block cancer treatments for smokers or ER visits for drunk drivers or rehab services for people who used painkillers “recreationally” rather than for an injury.

Society shows our disapprobation in other ways than in withholding necessary medical care

area51

(11,908 posts)
5. Ugh, he used the rightwing phrase "health care consumers".
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 06:48 AM
Aug 2021

We're patients, not consumers looking to buy a sofa.

bucolic_frolic

(43,149 posts)
9. A right to reject vaccination?
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:16 AM
Aug 2021

Measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus? I think this Texas journalist has been infected by libertarianism.

joshdawg

(2,648 posts)
14. They may have the right to not get vaccinated, but
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:37 AM
Aug 2021

they do not have the right to infect anyone. And they will if they remain unvaccinated.

markie

(22,756 posts)
17. disagree...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:30 AM
Aug 2021

"People have a right to reject vaccination against COVID-19; no question"

I have questions and so should everyone... there are legitimate reasons that someone cannot get the vaccination

but... as a citizen of this Country we have responsibilities towards each other... we have responsibilities to help protect each other from unnecessary harm... we follow rules of the road... we require vaccinations to enter school... we prosecute people with HIV that knowingly infect others... we have hate crime laws... we share burdens by taxation and others means... etc...



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