The State supports Sanders. Please write your Senators and tell them they

[rhett o rick]

need to represent us and not the establishment. Congress-Critters also.

[scottie55]

1. Time Every Super Delegate In Washington State Endorsed Bernie

Said The Same Thing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511582517#post32

[stuffmatters]

2. Yep, both Wa Dem Senators Murray & Cantwell voted for TPP fast track

[rhett o rick]

6. And they would not give me the curtacy of explaining how the TPP would help

American workers. They did point out that they insisted that funding be included to help those that lose jobs. That is an admission THAT PEOPLE WILL LOSE JOBS. And who foots the bill for retraining???? Not the corporations that will profit by the TPP but the taxpayers already strapped. And what jobs will the retraining be for? Retraining is useless unless there are jobs.

We need a revolution which means kicking the DINO's out of our party.

[TexasTowelie]

3. That's a wonderful idea Rick.

I think that I will do the same for the superdelegates in Texas. I see that 29 of them still haven't committed to Clinton.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[pnwmom]

4. No. They don't only represent caucus voters. They represent the whole state,

and that vote will be reflected in the primary that is yet to come.

[rhett o rick]

5. What an excuse to favor the establishment candidate. The Democratic Primary is meaningless.

The Party uses the caucus system and the super delegates should heed what the Party decides.

[pnwmom]

7. The Democratic primary involves many more participants and is a much better reflection

of overall voter preferences than the caucuses that over-sample for people with a lot of time on their hands and political activists.

[rhett o rick]

8. The Democratic Party of Wash the State recognizes the caucus results and not the primary results.

I was at a caucus gathering yesterday with about 300 people. There were all ages and from all walks of life. They were glad participants. Why would you disparage them? "people with a lot of time on their hands and political activists." You use the term "political activists" in the pejorative. We are the ones that hold the County meetings and Leg. Dist meetings. We validate ballots and drive people to caucuses and polls. We call for GOTV. We are the backbone of the Party. Not sure what your agenda is but it doesn't seem Democratic.

[pnwmom]

9. I went to one, too, and it is not disparaging the participants to say they are not

as representative as primary participants of the state Democratic population overall. My precinct location was an example. My husband pointed out what a strong gender imbalance there was -- so many more men than women. Very unusual for a Democratic event -- but not for a Bernie event.

Most states replaced caucuses with the more Democratic and inclusive primary system years ago. Washington voters passed a referendum to do so, but the party establishment clung to their power and went to court to retain the caucuses. So we're stuck with them, for now. But now one should pretend they do a better job of representing the will of the people than the primary.

[rhett o rick]

10. The Washington State Democratic Party has decided to allocate their delegates

to the National Party convention approx 75% for Sanders and 25% for Clinton. Why should our super-delegates go against the State Party decision? Besides they were biased in favor of Clinton even before we voted. The Super-Delegate system is intended to nullify the popular vote if it isn't in favor of the Establishment's choice.

I assume you are aware that one could vote in their precinct caucus via absentee (surrogate) ballot.

One reason that we have a strong Democratic Party in our county is that we meet at events like the caucuses. We get names of those that want to participate. we have a great database of local Democrats that we use for GOTV.

If you went to your caucus I assume you turned in a resolution to end the caucus system. We collected resolutions to be voted on at the upcoming county convention. We have a working grassroots system. In my caucus we had an 18y/o and a 65 y/o voting in a caucus for the first time.

[pnwmom]

11. The WA State Democratic party ALSO decided to reject more inclusive, more representative

primaries for caucuses that helped party operatives retain more power over the rank and file.

Our super delegates may feel more obligated to rank and file Democrats, whose voice will be heard in the primary and the General election, than to the activists and party operatives who participate in the caucuses. I have already written to them to express my appreciation for their support of Hillary and will do so again.

No, not everyone could vote in a caucus via a surrogate ballot. The circumstances are more limited than for voting absentee. For example, there is no provision for out of state college students to vote. My son, who is a Bernie supporter, couldn't vote in that state's primary either because that would have interfered with his state residency here (which he needed.)

No, I didn't turn in a resolution. I'm not a party operative and I didn't know about that option. But when they gave me an envelope for a contribution to help defray the cost of the caucuses, I wrote a message inside explaining that I didn't want to pay for the caucuses because I was one of the majority of Democratic voters who voted in the referendum to END them and replace them with primaries.

And I did explain to the other people at my table why we are stuck with both caucuses and a primary in our state -- despite the vote of the people that the party leaders went to court to oppose.

P.S. The fact that you had a 65 year old voting in a caucus for the first time is an indication of how onerous participating in a caucus is, compared to voting in our primary and general elections. We also had a woman, a Hillary supporter, who was retired and voting in a caucus for the first time. She'd been a regular voter in other elections, but not caucuses. Even high turnout in a caucus is low -- thus, less representative -- compared to turnout in primaries.

[rhett o rick]

12. The 65 y/o was voting for the first time in Washington the State because she moved here

from Calif. and was happy to be at the caucus. She voted for Clinton. You continue to disparage the people that hold our grassroots party together, the "operatives" as you pejoratively call us. We "operatives" are teachers, mailpersons, pipefitters, welders, contractors, etc. that VOLUNTEER our time to run the caucuses and all the other functions at the grass-roots level. The head county "operative" is going to have a baby in two months. The 18 y/o was encouraged to join our local Young-Democrats group. She got to see how the system worked instead of just mailing in a vote. No one is stuck with both the caucuses and primary. The Primary is meaningless.

The Super-Delegate system was designed to keep the progressives from getting in office and taking away the power from the Establishment that is always conservative.

We need change desperately in this country and, at best, Clinton represents more of the same, at worst things will continue to get worse. How high do the poverty rates have to get before you understand that the Ruling 1% doesn't give a crap?

[pnwmom]

13. The primary is meaningless only because the party leaders went to court to MAKE it meaningless.

The Democratic voters in the state voted to choose our party nominees with a primary -- not caucuses -- and you went to court to oppose the will of the people.

The elected super delegates DO care about what voters want, because they depend on their votes. Unlike unelected party leaders who decided to substitute their judgement for the people's.