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Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
Sun May 23, 2021, 10:59 AM May 2021

My daughter's current employer issued this statement regarding the mask mandate. Thank you, L'Etoile

We have decided to continue requiring masks to ensure our employees and all those who visit are taken into consideration and protected. We hope everyone understands and respects our decision. We are excited for all the new dishes, desserts, and individuals that will be joining us in house this summer!

#danecounty #madisonwi #madisonwisconsin #visitmadison #letoile #thankyou #thankyoumadison #dineinmadison #masks #vaccinatemadison



(Love the “underrepresented” inclusion)

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My daughter's current employer issued this statement regarding the mask mandate. Thank you, L'Etoile (Original Post) Heartstrings May 2021 OP
Awesome restaurant! I lived in Madison back in the 1990s Ziggysmom May 2021 #1
"The new owners continue with her tradition of . . . caring about people and the environment." LaMouffette May 2021 #2
They shouldn't allow anyone to enter without proof of vaccination instead MichMan May 2021 #3
If they were taking Covid really seriously speak easy May 2021 #4
In their defense, Heartstrings May 2021 #6
You don't know what they've done for air circulation elias7 May 2021 #15
There is a reason why indoor dining and bars were closed first. speak easy May 2021 #16
BRAVO.......... DENVERPOPS May 2021 #5
Always hated that statement. Ignorance is painful. plimsoll May 2021 #9
Stealing some of this verbiage for one of my clients! Blue_playwright May 2021 #7
One of these days, I have to go there AllyCat May 2021 #8
Wise choice at this point. paleotn May 2021 #10
A very nice restaurant, as I recall. 2naSalit May 2021 #11
Caring for your employees. Lunabell May 2021 #12
this what the CDC should have said Skittles May 2021 #13
The CDC is indicating what science upholds. Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles May 2021 #18
I don't think we are safe until all are safe Skittles May 2021 #19
If you are vaccinated, you are not a danger to others Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #20
I see what you are saying. sybylla May 2021 #21
Here's an article talking about a Fauci interview Cuthbert Allgood May 2021 #22
Like I said, there are many reason to continue wearing a mask. sybylla May 2021 #23
Here's Fauci's quote from the link: sybylla May 2021 #24
Good on them! BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #14

Ziggysmom

(3,414 posts)
1. Awesome restaurant! I lived in Madison back in the 1990s
Sun May 23, 2021, 11:06 AM
May 2021

That was before Odessa Piper sold L'Etoile. Happy that the new owners continue with her tradition of using foods from local farmers and caring about people and the environment.
Always loved that restaurant ❤️

LaMouffette

(2,039 posts)
2. "The new owners continue with her tradition of . . . caring about people and the environment."
Sun May 23, 2021, 11:19 AM
May 2021

Isn't that it in a nutshell? That completely sums up the difference between maskers/vaxxers and anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers. The first group cares about others and the planet. The latter group cares about themselves. Period.

MichMan

(11,977 posts)
3. They shouldn't allow anyone to enter without proof of vaccination instead
Sun May 23, 2021, 11:39 AM
May 2021

It is impossible for people to wear a mask while eating

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
6. In their defense,
Sun May 23, 2021, 12:29 PM
May 2021

they just recently re-opened in March 2021 after being closed for the entire 2020 year because of covid.

elias7

(4,027 posts)
15. You don't know what they've done for air circulation
Mon May 24, 2021, 06:32 AM
May 2021

Or other things to mitigate transmission indoors. It’s just too pat a stance to state categorically that they’re not taking Covid seriously

speak easy

(9,320 posts)
16. There is a reason why indoor dining and bars were closed first.
Mon May 24, 2021, 07:18 AM
May 2021

With 40% not vaccinated the risks can be mitigated but not eliminated.

DENVERPOPS

(8,845 posts)
5. BRAVO..........
Sun May 23, 2021, 12:27 PM
May 2021

versus: Our local King Soopers grocery chain (Kroeger) has dropped all mask requirements. Small wonder the Safeway stores are very busy..............

I dug down into an old desk drawer and drug out my pin from the 60's, and wear it everywhere.......

IGNORANCE SHOULD BE PAINFUL

plimsoll

(1,670 posts)
9. Always hated that statement. Ignorance is painful.
Sun May 23, 2021, 01:06 PM
May 2021

The problem is that it's indiscriminate in who it causes pain.

AllyCat

(16,228 posts)
8. One of these days, I have to go there
Sun May 23, 2021, 12:49 PM
May 2021

Completely respect any business decision to do this and hopefully Dane will continue on the path to some “localized” herd immunity.

2naSalit

(86,802 posts)
11. A very nice restaurant, as I recall.
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:23 PM
May 2021

Ate there a few times before I moved away from the area. Good for them, I hope it will not turn out to be a bad decision.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
17. The CDC is indicating what science upholds.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:11 AM
May 2021

People that are vaccinated are a dead end for the virus. Even if they get it (which over 98% of positive tests are from unvaccinated), they don't pass it on. So there is no need for the vaccinated to wear a mask. Whether they do or not is not going to change the progress.

Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #17)

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
19. I don't think we are safe until all are safe
Mon May 24, 2021, 05:31 PM
May 2021

I am continuing to mask in stores, as are 90% of the people around me.

DONE here

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
20. If you are vaccinated, you are not a danger to others
Tue May 25, 2021, 09:56 AM
May 2021

and they aren't a danger to you.

Now, the problem is that people who aren't vaccinated are getting rid of the masks and they can spread it to others that aren't vaccinated. But, all indications are that as someone vaccinated, you are a dead end for the virus. You won't spread it.

If you think the all caps "DONE" is somehow convincing and overrides the science, you would be wrong. But, hey, if you want to wear a mask, have at it. I still do too for some weird reason I can't explain, honestly. But you don't need to based on what we know at this point.

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
21. I see what you are saying.
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:05 PM
May 2021

I have not seen the science behind the "dead end" that you claim and have never heard immunologists or the CDC make such a claim. It makes no sense to me that if I'm one of the 2% who were vaccinated who catches COVID-19 anyway, that I could not pass that on. I'd love a link to studies that show such a thing.

Regardless of all the reasons to still wear a mask beyond vaccination, we don't have this thing quashed. There is a high probability for other variants to develop in other countries, if not here. I care for a 4mo baby and have a 9yo grandson who will be spending a month with me this summer. For them, I will be taking zero chances. Masks all around when we go out in public and no "dining in."

Before you get started, I thoroughly believe in science. I also believe there is still much we don't know in a virus that has only been around for 18 months and continues to evolve.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
22. Here's an article talking about a Fauci interview
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:25 PM
May 2021
Dead ends

I'm fine with people wearing masks if that is what makes them feel better. But we have science telling us things. We need to act with confidence in that or we are no better than the "I don't believe I have to wear a mask even though the CDC tells me I should" crowd. That said, I haven't stopped wearing a mask at stores for some reason I have no clue about. So I get it. But I admit it's my own problem and not science.

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
23. Like I said, there are many reason to continue wearing a mask.
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:24 PM
May 2021

Not getting sick for 18 months has been the biggest boon. Not needing to have conversations with people I know because they don't recognize me when I'm on a deadline. Not pissing people off with my resting bitch face. Etcetera.

Thanks for the link.

sybylla

(8,526 posts)
24. Here's Fauci's quote from the link:
Tue May 25, 2021, 10:28 PM
May 2021

"So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they're going to transmit it," Fauci said.

As I said, I'm not going to take chances with a 4mo and an unvaccinated 9yo with autism.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,571 posts)
14. Good on them!
Sun May 23, 2021, 07:40 PM
May 2021

The "safe" part is more or less painless, despite what some would have you believe. The "sorry" part is more painful than anyone wants to experience.

We have been living under some pretty strict conditions - what the Health Authority has been calling a "circuit breaker." Lots of whining from the Usual Suspects, but most people accept it with pretty good grace, and some people are enthusiastic.

We have dropped the "Active" case numbers in our zone of about 400,000 people from 270 to 34 in the last 2 months. That is a pretty good result.

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