Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 04:41 AM Sep 2013

A request, as I seem to be missing the thread on intervention in Syria ...

Could someone please send me a link to any reliable source which outlines the proposed targets and assumed outcome of proposed Western intervention in Syria.

It seems to be curiously absent from public statements and I would have thought that it was rather relevant.

The Skin

3 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
A request, as I seem to be missing the thread on intervention in Syria ... (Original Post) non sociopath skin Sep 2013 OP
The target is Assad's desire to use chemical weapons tjwmason Sep 2013 #1
The thing that worries me.... T_i_B Sep 2013 #2
Exactly! non sociopath skin Sep 2013 #3

tjwmason

(14,819 posts)
1. The target is Assad's desire to use chemical weapons
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:32 AM
Sep 2013

Dave says that it's possible to attack his desire without intervening in the broader conflict, and so naturally we should trust him on this one.

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
2. The thing that worries me....
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 07:31 AM
Sep 2013

....is how glib many of the assurances are from the pro-intervention camp.

After all that's happened in the last 10 years, people cannot be expected to swallow glib statements that intervention in Syria won't turn out like Iraq & Afghanistan and that we won't end up aiding Al-Quaida or their allies. It's hardly unreasonable to recall all the false statements made to justify the Iraq war and we all remember how that turned out. Especially when prior to last weeks vote we were in an even bigger hurry to intervene then we were in Iraq or Afghanistan.

non sociopath skin

(4,972 posts)
3. Exactly!
Wed Sep 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
Sep 2013

In both Iraq and Afghanistan, the aims were stated - essentially regime change - and boots were firmly planted on the ground. And both have proved disasters.

So what is this one about? Are Barack and Dave expecting Assad to come out with his hands up saying "Fair cop, guv. You got me bang to rights there!"

And the Jihadi factions to say, "Well, as you've saved us from Assad, we'll step aside and enable the formation of western-style parties so we can all enjoy paliamentary democracy and live happily ever after"?

Incidentally, isn't it depressing that the only thing the GOP and the Democrats have agreed on in the last five years is bombing the beejasus out of the Levant?

The Skin

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»United Kingdom»A request, as I seem to b...