One kind of voter fraud that is actually real: hint--photo ID is of no help whatsoever--

[eridani]

--in combatting it. Voting in more than one state could be quite common. The voter-suppressing Repukes naturally want no part of the solution, which would be elections standards set by the federal government instead of states. They would have a much harder time leveraging their racism at the national level. This would immediately bring advocates of open source software and mandatory auditing on board as well.

Remember that the only reason for having voting controlled at the state level in the first place was to enable slave states to have their own way.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/content/20081117_multiple_voting_is_a_felony_hard_to_police

Question: What safeguards are in place to prevent people from voting in more than one state? My son recently registered and voted on the mainland, where he's in school, but his name was still on the list at my polling place on Election Day. Since poll workers just check identity, what's to stop somebody from voting early/absentee on the mainland and in person in Hawaii (or vice versa)?

Answer: People "should know that, first and foremost, it is a felony to vote more than once at both federal and local levels," said city Elections Administrator Glen Takahashi.

But, at this point, there really is no way to prevent someone intent on voting in multiple states from doing so.

Asked if that means, on Election Day nationally, there really is no way to detect whether someone has voted in multiple states, he answered, "Yes."

[SheilaT]

1. Several years ago the Kansas City Star looked very hard

for voter fraud. What they came up with was about three or four people who had deliberately registered and voted in both Kansas and Missouri. As I recall, all of them were Republicans (gosh!) and they defended their right to do that because they owned a home on one side of the state line and had a business on the other.

While what they did is despicable and there needs to be some kind of punishment, even that kind of voter fraud is incredibly rare.

Certainly, if college students who went to school out of state were willing to be sufficiently organized, a lot of them could vote in two different places. I'm guessing hardly any of them do.

[Skee]

2. The real problem is the blackbox.

The central tabulators determine the outcome no matter who votes what where.

[eridani]

3. Please don't conflate voter suppression with ballot integrity

Two different issues.