No, Dears. Hillary ain't weak, and the Supers ain't nullifying our votes

[MrWendel]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/5/1523552/-No-Dears-Hillary-ain-t-weak-and-the-Supers-ain-t-nullifying-our-votes

By Bravenak


These are not superdelegates

It is not Hillary who has the weak candidacy, it is Bernie. If he is too weak to win against HER, then he damn sure can't beat Trump.

And if he can't beat Trump, then, why in the world would superdelegates switch?

He has shown he can fight democrats, but has he EVER bothered to fight Republicans?They won't treat him with kids gloves like we do, all his baby mama drama, and writings, and connections to any socialist or communist will be blown up, until they have him seeming like Mao. And no number of memes and swarms, or podium birds and posts on reddit, will stop Trump or his supporters from trashing Bernie until he loses. Superdelegates know this.

And with the way us regular Democrats are talked about by Sanders base, our candidate called a straight up criminal, and at times maybe murderer of brown children; which supers are going to be at the convention voting Bernie? Not the establishment democrats. Nor moderates, or conservative dems. Or us confederates or stockholm syndrome victims. Probably not us vagina voters, either, and especially not our Obama coalition members.

Are black women going to stand in those long lines for him in swing states if the superdelegates steal the election for him? Maybe...Though we know how we are treated and talked about by his base, so... Harassed. Doxxed. Bro’d. Yet we are not selfish and privileged enough to withhold our votes and promise to deliver our allies into the hands of the rightwing. We are strong. Superdelegates would not ask us to do that.

We ignant confederates. The south don’t count. We live in the ghetto. Winning us is like winning Guam, Amirite? (All they had to do was apologize and knock it off and they might have gotten many more of us) Apparently we have no value at all unless we live in a state that Bernie won. Superdelegates can read, so, I'm pretty sure they know better than to go against the will of the people who apparently don’t count in some quarters.

He has no chance. He and his crew have shown that they are good at fighting Democrats, unapologetically offending our demographics, and telling us how we need to think. Not once have I seen him and his crew fight the right. Or even fight these memes coming out of his base. Not once.

No, they fawn over Liberty Uni and the Anti abortion, Anti gay pope, parade Cornel West and Killer Mike around, eat some soul food and spam us with MLK quotes, while crying out “SUPERPREDATORS!”

The superdelegates can see all of this stuff. Hell, many are experiencing the same harassment right now. And they are falling in line on MY side, against this nasty rhetoric. No way they even THINK about nullifying the votes of the most reliable group within the democratic base; us black women. We always show up even if we despise the dem we end up voting for. We earned our seat at the table by showing up no matter what.

He should have fired Weaver and Devine (who helped create the superdelegate monster) if he wanted to win. Hired a diverse staff. Not tried to pin his hopes on the idea that same establishment that he rails and rants against day after day, would decide to ignore the will of the voters and install him as our nominee. The very idea is absurd on it's face.

[George II]

1. Some of them don't even look like they're old enough to vote.

[George II]

14. I know that. And some of them don't even look old enough to vote.

[katmille]

23. What are you doing here?

Go peddle your negativity on the Bernie group where they thrive on negativity. This is basically a positive group. Hillary's group.

[Cha]

26. They won't be back.

[IamMab]

2. When I see that picture, I notice that the guy in the middle looks like a young Chris Christie clone

Yeah, try unseeing that now.

This whole "she's so weak" argument from the Bros just makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. If she's weak, what does that say about Sanders, who is routinely, regularly, and repeatedly losing to her?

I have a strong suspicion that when the insiders of the Sanders campaign speak to the press or authors eventually, Devine and Weaver get singled out as the source of all of the bad advice. Devine is a Democratic party insider who, by campaign's end, will have fleeced progressive voters out of millions of dollars. Weaver is a bitter old radical with a tin ear for the modern electorate. Neither one should have been a presidential campaign strategist. Devine especially, considering he was 0-for-4 before signing on with Sanders!

[LisaM]

3. Looking at that picture totally cements my opinion

that a lot of his youthful supporters will be Republican in ten years.

[IamMab]

5. I firmly believe that most of them are already libertarian, or what they think counts as libertarian

Although in retrospect, some of them just sound like 100% contrarians, who will shit all over anything because they are incapable of happiness and take it out on everyone around them. Especially when the "anything" being shat all over involves someone else's hard work, time, and effort, because those are concepts they have never been exposed to yet.

[leftofcool]

4. Super delegates are already telling Sanders absolutely NO

[charlyvi]

6. They haven't exactly endeared themselves to this old white lady either.

Well said Mr. Wendal. Throwing Planned Parenthood under the bus, calling women's health a "social issue" whatever that's supposed to mean.....that they can't be bothered with it, I guess. The misogyny alone by the dudebros should doom his campaign. Oh wait, it is doomed. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THIS PRIMARY IS OVER!

[skylucy]

7. "They haven't exactly endeared themselves to this old white lady either"...I second

that emotion, charlyvi. This old white lady feels the same! Hillary 2016.

[Cha]

29. Just so you know, our bravenak wrote it, charlyvi..

[charlyvi]

35. Saw that after I posted. So sorry.

If you read this Bravenak, so sorry! Very well said.

[brer cat]

9. K&R for another moment of truth by bravenak! eom

[all american girl]

10. Thank you MrWendel

I miss having Bravenak's voice here. She so good at speaking truth. This was spot on.

[Jitter65]

11. My gurl!! Has she been banned from DU? I haven't seen her post in a while.

She hasn't lost a beat and I am happy to see her posting somewhere.

[Jitter65]

13. Just did a search on her...color her gone.

[sheshe2]

18. She has been flagged for review

for 30 days now. Other Hill supporters are in the same boat, as well.

I miss all their voices here, Jitter.

[Jitter65]

31. I guess I might be next. Never heard about "review." nt

[sheshe2]

32. Flagged for review.

That happens when you get two hides in a 24 hour period. Please be careful and pull back when you get one.

[Cha]

30. No, bravenak is on FFR.. she's been flagged for review for over a month and

Skinner is doing nothing about it. Along with other friends of ours.. she's in Limbo while others are being let back in.

[Squinch]

12. Brave does it again!

[DesertRat]

15. Great post! k&r

[mcar]

16. Kick

bravenak!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. +1000

Nice to hear from Bravenak. Then there's someone in the comments section calling her racist.

Oh my God! This 58 year old white male feels so oppressed.

[sheshe2]

19. Thanks for posting...

Bravenaks words here MrWendel.

Awesome as always.

[Koinos]

20. Bravenak is a real asset to the Democratic party.

Truth is the only antidote to delusion.

[William769]

21. Kick & so highly recommended.

[Walk away]

22. Bravenak! Right on target he is not a Democrat and his followers are no longer Democrats....

if they ever were. However, 90% of the folks who have voted for him will turn around and vote for Hillary Clinton in November, so Super Delegates can stick to their principles and vote for the candidate they have always believed in.

[wysi]

24. Thanks for posting...

... and thanks to Bravenak for the piece, and for weathering the comments section. I thought much of that stuff was not going to be allowed at Kos anymore (e.g. allegations of money laundering, etc).

[Starry Messenger]

25. K&R

<3

[Iliyah]

27. K & R

[Cha]

28. Logic Logic Logic, Bravenak! Love it! Especially..

"..especially not our Obama coalition members."

Excellent OP, brave.. I'll leave you with this tweet from Propane Jane that illustrates your point so well..

The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult

Thank you for posting, MrWendel~

[ismnotwasm]

33. K&R

[Haveadream]

34. Thank you for the article, Bravenak!

Superb, heartfelt and well-reasoned as always. You are missed every day!

And, thank you to Mr Wendel for posting!