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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:27 AM Jun 2016

Sen. Boxer to Sanders: 'You can't just diss everybody' backing Clinton

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/barbara-boxer-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-223772


Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) sharply criticized Bernie Sanders on Wednesday for lumping her and Jerry Brown into the "establishment" wing of the Democratic Party after the California governor announced the previous day that he, along with Boxer and other high-ranking California lawmakers, would be supporting Hillary Clinton.

"For Bernie to say that Jerry Brown is establishment is kind of the biggest joke of the day," said Boxer, a top Clinton ally in the Senate, in an interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" to promote her latest book, "The Art of Tough."

Sanders on Tuesday told reporters that he has "taken on the entire Democratic establishment" in each state that he has contested in the primary process.

"It’s not surprising to me that, you know, we will have the Democratic establishment supporting Hillary Clinton," Sanders said Tuesday, according to the Sacramento Bee's account, "I like Jerry Brown, but people can make their own choices.”

As far as Sanders calling Boxer an establishment figure, the senator who has served 23 years alongside her colleague from Vermont invited viewers to read her book to see that she has "fought ... a lot of the establishment my entire life."

"Just because you are supporting Hillary doesn't mean you are, quote, the establishment. It means you are progressive and you want to see her [as president]," Boxer said. "She is so qualified for this post. She is just what we need. I love Bernie, he’s my friend for a long time. But you can't just diss everybody who supports Hillary Clinton."



BS dismiss..everybody' backing Clinton..to bad she is qualified to be the president and the only one in 2016...and will be....
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Sen. Boxer to Sanders: 'You can't just diss everybody' backing Clinton (Original Post) Iamaartist Jun 2016 OP
Hey - they can diss me all they want JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #1
Mahalo, Gen! Cha Jun 2016 #3
Yep - first Primary since I've lived in NJ JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #10
Yeah, your votes matter! All over the country our votes matter to people Cha Jun 2016 #12
I know! We are planning on voting first thing in the morning because.... Walk away Jun 2016 #28
May that defiance spread! brer cat Jun 2016 #18
... puffy socks Jun 2016 #29
That is all Bernie's campaign has become liberal N proud Jun 2016 #2
What a loser campaign.. Cha Jun 2016 #5
there is a huge upside to bernie and janes lack of judgement concerning jery brown beachbum bob Jun 2016 #4
Even after Gov Brown "praised BS", too.. doesn't matter.. if you endorse Hillary Cha Jun 2016 #6
I agree. he still thinks he can win... Iamaartist Jun 2016 #7
I'm not sure he actually believes that...he is just unwilling to give up the spotlight beachbum bob Jun 2016 #9
I do to...he should have by now and hasn't Iamaartist Jun 2016 #14
This is why burnie is failing.. I'll add a fourth.. Insult everyone who supports your opponent. Cha Jun 2016 #8
+1 liberal N proud Jun 2016 #11
Like this .....its the truth... Iamaartist Jun 2016 #13
Great post! Haveadream Jun 2016 #15
Thank-you I agree 100% just love this photo... Iamaartist Jun 2016 #17
Man they look so in sync! Her Sister Jun 2016 #25
Sanders is not a uniter. He is a divider. It is typical bush mentality. "You are either for me, still_one Jun 2016 #16
Excellent post, still_one! brer cat Jun 2016 #19
Thanks brer. The Hillary hate is so rampent outside this group, its pathetic still_one Jun 2016 #20
Thank you, stillone! sanders himself voted for ACA.. and said the votes weren't there Cha Jun 2016 #21
He was one of the last hold outs voting for the ACA. still_one Jun 2016 #23
Dennis Kucinich being the last? Cha Jun 2016 #24
Very well said hit that right on the nail.. thank-you Iamaartist Jun 2016 #22
Planned Parenthood is "the Establishment"! NARAL is "the Establishment"! LisaM Jun 2016 #26
He started out good, but ran a poor campaign after he started losing brush Jun 2016 #27

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
1. Hey - they can diss me all they want
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

And Jerry Brown.

I'm voting for Clinton next Tuesday and there's nothing anyone in that campaign or its supporters can do to stop me.

Defiance starts at the voting booth.

Watch me defy Sanders.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
12. Yeah, your votes matter! All over the country our votes matter to people
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

who care about Democracy~

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
28. I know! We are planning on voting first thing in the morning because....
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

I want to make sure that my vote is one of the votes that puts her over the top and wins the nomination!

It's so exciting

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. That is all Bernie's campaign has become
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

No longer about issues but ridiculing anyone who doesn't feel the bern and reassuring his supporters he is still in it.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. there is a huge upside to bernie and janes lack of judgement concerning jery brown
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jun 2016

dissing a popular Governor ....and sanders followers piling on accusing brown of everything under the sun...mostly likely gives hillary a victory..


thanks to sanders and his followers for insuring that

Cha

(297,187 posts)
6. Even after Gov Brown "praised BS", too.. doesn't matter.. if you endorse Hillary
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jun 2016

you're suddenly not pure enough for the oh so pure burnie.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
9. I'm not sure he actually believes that...he is just unwilling to give up the spotlight
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016

the attention he has been given is the first time in his life....and for the most part...sanders has been given a free ride that no media has really done any vetting of his 40 years of ranting socialism...that would turn off many americans with his unfettered criticisms of capitalism, business, wealthy, success....constant unending....and the fact he has no meaningful legislative accomplishments in spite of decades in congress...


no...I think bernie is strictly ego driven and won't give it up....june 16th can't get here soon enough

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
15. Great post!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jun 2016

Senator Boxer is right!

Does Bernie have to take every endorsement of Hillary so negatively and personally? He has the most sour and discouraging disposition of any candidate in recent memory. No wonder his supporters are demoralized and disaffected. And, I blame him for the quagmire of fear and despondency in which they now find themselves. A leader and a uniter he is not. When you compare him to Obama and Hillary, the differences could not be more striking.

Hillary and Obama are positive, uplifting and in synch!





Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
17. Thank-you I agree 100% just love this photo...
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jun 2016

CANT WAIT UNTIL THEY CAMPAIGN TOGETHER !!!!!

We voted for Bill twice when he ran,and Obama twice its Dems or nothing and I cant see where BS is for our party....never did...

still_one

(92,187 posts)
16. Sanders is not a uniter. He is a divider. It is typical bush mentality. "You are either for me,
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jun 2016

otherwise you are against me"

Sanders and his campaign have dissed any person or group that has endorsed Hillary. Anyone who doesn't support him, he views them as the "establishment".

It is a code word many of them use to denote "3rd way Democrats, corporatists, republicans, etc". Hell, I am surprised they haven't joined the ranks of Michelle Bachman, and referred to the Democratic party as the "democrat" party.

When he makes comments like, "corporations have destroyed the moral fabric of America", is this the kind of person who will actually work with everyone?

In his NY Daily News interview when he promised to break of banks within his first year as President, whether Congress likes it or not,
either demonstrates his lack of knowledge of how the government works, or he is lying. It is this kind of sloppiness about details that have encompassed his entire campaign.

What Boxer is saying is right, but it doesn't just apply to Democrats he doesn't care for, it applies everyone who doesn't agree with him.

Many here have been bashing the Obama administration from the start. The ACA is the perfect example. While the ACA may not be the panacea that many were looking for, it was a significant beginning. While single payer, or a public option would have been wonderful, some do not seem to comprehend that Congress would have never passed it. NOT one republican voted for the ACA, and the blue dog Democrats made it very clear they would not support a public option or single payer. Which part of, "they didn't have the votes", don't they understand. President Obama realized this, and also realized that there was a very limited time to get something done, before the midterm elections. I remember the nay-sayers here saying that it is better to have nothing than the ACA. Really. Tell that to the those who were uninsured that can now get healthcare insurance, many with a subsidy Tell that to those who were added to the roles because of expanded Medicaid, or the uninsured children who are now covered. Ironically, Vermont itself couldn't get single payer off the ground.

Talk is cheap Mr. Sanders.





Cha

(297,187 posts)
21. Thank you, stillone! sanders himself voted for ACA.. and said the votes weren't there
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

for single payer.. but all he does is rage on what it isn't .. not talking about how beneficial it's been for so many people.

Like you pointed out so well.. BS is a divider.. no wonder he lost.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
24. Dennis Kucinich being the last?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

And, we got it and it made the President so happy because he is a man of vision and knows that it will only grow and grow.. and that's it's not unworthy just because it isn't instant single payer.

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
22. Very well said hit that right on the nail.. thank-you
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jun 2016

You can not go into a oval office as president and just rip everything we accomplish and start from beginning......plus he doesn't even know his own plan...who would run the show of course the Tea Party with him in office...

brush

(53,774 posts)
27. He started out good, but ran a poor campaign after he started losing
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

"The Sanders campaign committed a series of fatal strategic errors mostly attributable to incompetent staff work and an unforgivable lack of preparation against the Clinton Machine.

Among the bullet points in the campaign’s post-mortem, we can’t help but to note that Bernie & Company mistakenly went negative against Hillary, unnecessarily careening onto and embracing the low-road. Bernie, meanwhile, deeply excoriated the Democratic Party establishment and the superdelegate system, only to circle back, groveling now for establishment support after it’s too late. The Bernie get-out-the-vote effort failed to turn impressively massive rally crowds into actual votes, time and time again. Bernie himself stoked discontent and conspiracy-mongering within the party by misleading his supporters about delegate math while also failing to properly educate his ground-game activists about voter-registration and primary rules state-to-state.

Perhaps his deadliest error occurred when he pledged to run his campaign solely on individual donations famously averaging $27 when, in a general election matchup, he would’ve suddenly confronted a stratospheric pile of GOP cash that would’ve invariably crushed his chances unless he backpedaled. The list goes on and on. And now he’s willing to participate in a stunt — a debate between the GOP winner and the Democratic loser. A political exhibition bout.

These are all factors to take into consideration, and a farcical stunt-debate between Bernie and Trump wouldn’t have ameliorated Bernie’s self-inflicted damage, nor would it have sufficed as a last-minute Hail Mary. At the end of the day, it only would’ve managed to illustrate how a failed Democratic candidate was just as willing as Trump to debase himself within the idiocratic narrative."

— Bob Cesca is a regular contributor to Salon.com.

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