Bernie Sanders’s ‘factually incorrect’ delegate math

[Iamaartist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/02/bernie-sanderss-factually-incorrect-delegate-math/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b



Fact Checker

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders criticized the Democratic party's nomination process and superdelegates during a rally in Santa Cruz, Calif., on May 31. He blasted reports that rival Hillary Clinton had clinched the nomination as "factually incorrect." (AP)

“Literally eight months before the first ballot was cast in Iowa, she had almost all of the superdelegates on board. That is an absurd system. … Now, on Tuesday night, on the 7th, you are going to hear from media saying that Hillary Clinton has received 80 or 90 delegates from New Jersey and other states…the nominating process is over, Secretary Clinton has won. That is factually incorrect. That is just not factually correct.”

— Sen. Bernie Sanders, speech in Santa Cruz, Calif., May 31

Sanders has complained regularly about the “absurd” system used in the Democratic Party presidential nomination process — a combination of 4,051 delegates elected through primaries and caucuses and then 714 “superdelegates,” who are elected officials, former elected officials and other eminence grises of the Democratic Party who can back whomever they want.

Hillary Clinton is on track to win a majority of the pledged delegates, almost certainly by June 7. But because superdelegates make up 15 percent of the total delegate pool, neither Clinton nor Sanders can obtain the 2,383 delegates needed to clinch the nomination without the support of superdelegates.

But the irony is that without the superdelegate system in place, Sanders likely would be toast on June 7, when six states essentially complete the primary process, including California with its 475 delegates. (There is also a vote on June 14 in D.C. to award 20 delegates.) So Sanders is complaining about a system that is actually keeping hope alive for his supporters, on the theory that superdelegates can change their vote any time before the convention starts in late July. But it’s a false hope.




Basic delegate math

[beachbum bob]

1. everything that comes from BS crowd is truly "BS" concerning delegates

just noise and means nothing

it over and been over for over a month...the media needs to stoke interest...and working sanders ego makes it so easy.....and sanders finds it easy to keep conning his supporters for more money


it is over

[Iamaartist]

2. The media I wish it would..but got my doubts....It is over..for BS

[Surya Gayatri]

3. How many has he collected so far? Maybe a couple dozen?

[Iamaartist]

4. LOL

[Koinos]

9. I knew it. The Pinocchios will put Bernie over the top on the first ballot!

[Thinkingabout]

5. When there are posts requiring 15% more pledged delegates by Hillary than is

Required and does require the same of Sanders and yet he wants the Super Delegates to switch over and give him the required number of combined delegates, now this would be a rigged system and a double standard.

I feel sure Hillary will get half of the pledged delegates also, with a majority of the pledged delegates and super delegates Hillary will be the nominee and the oligarchy by Sanders will not insert his will on the DNC.

[Cha]

6. sanders is caught in his own trap..

Bernie Sanders’s ‘factually incorrect’ delegate math

Thus Sanders is misleading his supporters when he suggests it is “factually incorrect” for the media to crown Clinton the presumptive nominee on June 7. In a narrow technical sense, the nominee is not chosen until the convention. But, barring some miracle, on June 7, Sanders will have lost the race for both pledged delegates and superdelegates. That leaves him with no hope to claim the nomination–unless he wants to overturn the will of the voters. But respecting the will of the voters was the original reason he complained about the superdelegate system in the first place.

Yay, more Pinocchios for BS.. this time on his Delegate Math.. 'bout time Pinocchio came calling!



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/06/02/bernie-sanderss-factually-incorrect-delegate-math/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

Mahalo, Iaaa~

[Iamaartist]

10. Its funny.....he asked for it....

[Gothmog]

7. Another good fact check on Sanders

[GusBob]

8. If I were to apply for an important job.....

1.If I were to apply for an important position, I would sure as heck know all the requirements necessary to fulfill the position.

2.If I went into the final interviews for the position, and lied about the requirements and my failure to fulfill them, and yet still claim I was qualified for the position, that would be fraudulent.

3. If I was the employer who took on this unqualified and dishonest candidate, I would be a fool and would worry about the future of my company as well.

[George II]

11. Originally they wanted the superdelegates to vote "with the people". Now that they've lost....

...they want the superdelegates to vote AGAINST the people?

Now, who was talking about "camp weathervane" and moving the goal posts?

[BobbyDrake]

13. Some Sanders supporters could teach a Masters class on psychological projection. nt

[Iamaartist]

17. I agree... his trying to change the rules that been there for years....

[BobbyDrake]

12. Is Bernie Sanders even capable of telling the truth any more?

Let's add one more giant untruth as a cherry on top: "Bernie Sanders will return to the Senate and have influence there."

[savalez]

14. Nobody gives a crap what bernie says anymore.

PROOF:

:large

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/LIKELY:1

[Legends303]

15. I love how the Sanders supporters are being dishonest

when the say Clinton is only winning in superdelegates and this the same race as 2008 which both are untrue. If Clinton was winning only by superdelegates and losing in the popular vote and pledged delegates, then yeah they would have a point. She is beating him soundly in both. Sanders won in most small states with low turnout.

[Cha]

16. They can't face reality.. neither can their leader.