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Hillary Clinton is going to win (Original Post) Cary Jan 2016 OP
I never worry about Libertarians and republicans.... Walk away Jan 2016 #1
Good point. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #2
Me either workinclasszero Jan 2016 #9
Yes. she will. And the riversedge Jan 2016 #3
They seem to be stuck in some kind of feedback loop Cary Jan 2016 #4
I'm at the point where Coolest Ranger Jan 2016 #5
I'm trying to think a few moves ahead. Cary Jan 2016 #6
Nate Silver of 538 puts Bernie's chances at next to zero Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #7
Thanks for that info. Please critique my reasoning. Cary Jan 2016 #8
Oh snap! kjones Jan 2016 #16
We will or have already seen every filthy gutter attack against Hillary workinclasszero Jan 2016 #10
It depends Treant Jan 2016 #11
No loss is my theory too Cary Jan 2016 #13
If she's the nominee, Rider3 Jan 2016 #12
Not that it matters what I think, but I have no problem with that. Cary Jan 2016 #14
But ... but.... BUT.....!!! Lil Missy Jan 2016 #15

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
1. I never worry about Libertarians and republicans....
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 10:54 AM
Jan 2016

The next President will be a Democrat, not a republican nor a Libertarian nor a Socialist.

riversedge

(70,441 posts)
3. Yes. she will. And the
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jan 2016

so many distortions tossed out by Sanders fans will be flushed down the drain or used by Republicans. so sad

Cary

(11,746 posts)
4. They seem to be stuck in some kind of feedback loop
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jan 2016

I'm trying to remember what happened after President Obama won. Since they're acting so similar now, I'm sure that's a template.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
5. I'm at the point where
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jan 2016

I am just trashing every anti-Hillary thread that pops up as well as every Pro-Bernie post that comes up. General Discussion primaries is also trashed. I'm so tired of the lies they keep posting.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
6. I'm trying to think a few moves ahead.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jan 2016

I lived through this as a President Obama supporter.

“Simplicity, patience, compassion.
These three are your greatest treasures.
Simple in actions and thoughts, you return to the source of being.
Patient with both friends and enemies,
you accord with the way things are.
Compassionate toward yourself,
you reconcile all beings in the world.”

Lao Tzu

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
7. Nate Silver of 538 puts Bernie's chances at next to zero
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jan 2016

I have downgraded Bernie to zero.

Oh and his fans are becoming more disgusting as they become more desperate. Actually Swift Boating Bill and Hillary.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
8. Thanks for that info. Please critique my reasoning.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jan 2016

Our current advantage is that Republicans embraced the radical right when they courted the Dixiecrats, engaged in the Southern Strategy, and reversed William F. Buckley's condemnation of the John Bircher types. Now the radical right is revolting against the Republican establishment because Republicans cannot possibly keep their promises. Their ideology is radical and impossible.

You cannot shrink government. It never happens and in fact it grows faster under Republicans. Smaller government is an empty bumper sticker slogan: a lie from top to bottom.

And I could go right down the line.

The radical left, by contrast, isn't part of the Democratic coalition. We won in 2008 and 2012 without them. They hurt us in 2000 but only because they didn't vote for Gore, and if we are to believe them they wouldn't have voted even if Nader wasn't on the ballot. Besides we did actually win and we probably would have had enough votes to prevent the Republicans on the Supreme Court from stealing it if Gore had embraced Clinton.

In other words the radical left does us a favor by being odious and obnoxioius. The more odious and obnoxious, the better. We don't want them. They would be a scourge, just like the radical right is to the Republicans.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
16. Oh snap!
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jan 2016

Someone's gonna need some salve for that Bern.




Serious though, the Left/Right can actually pull the nation in a direction,
but the Far Left/Right tend more often to cause gridlock (either with each
other or with their more moderate counterparts).

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
10. We will or have already seen every filthy gutter attack against Hillary
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jan 2016

and Bill that the teahaddist republicans will use here at Democratic Underground, many times over.

Its sickening that this garbage is allowed on a democratic support board.

I can only hope the TOS will be enforced once there is no doubt that Hillary will be the nominee of the party. About March 2, I believe.

If not I'm out of here and will find another board that is in fact, pro-democratic party.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
11. It depends
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016

Last time around, I was a modest Clinton supporter. When Obama won, however, I was perfectly happy with that result as I considered him an impressive candidate.

Of the 30-35% Bernie support, fully half is probably in the same range as I was for Clinton in 2008. They'll vote for Mrs. Clinton and be pretty happy with that decision.

The other half may disengage and stay home, continue to attack Mrs. Clinton, or eventually get won over.

My prediction is that those 15-17% follow about an even split on those three paths.

On the up side, those that would stay home will be the sorts that don't generally vote anyway. No loss.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
14. Not that it matters what I think, but I have no problem with that.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jan 2016

Just to be clear I personally have nothing against Bernie. I am all in against Republicans.

I know you understand.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
15. But ... but.... BUT.....!!!
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jan 2016

Aren't we "shakin' in our boots"??? Since Sanders is obviously going to win the primary, even without votes???? and is the ONLY ONE who can win the GE???

I learned it on DU, so it must be so!!

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