I'm not buying the IBD/TIPP polling

[Tommy2Tone]

You probably have seen the post about Hillary's lead in the national polling falling to near a statistical tie with Bernie. The poll raises more questions and moreover I see no statistical breakdown of how many were polled and what is their political breakdown.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-polls/011116-789089-hillaryclinton-lead-nearly-vanishes-among-democrats.htm

I went to Real Clear Politics and looked at the polling from Monday, the day the IBD/TIPP poll showing Hillary's lead near vanished. To balance I read polling from Fox News from Friday because it was the only polling data available that day.

See if you notice the interesting part of the two polls?

Monday 1/11/16 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination - IBD/TIPP - Clinton 43, Sanders 39, O'Malley 2 - Clinton +4
Friday 1/08/16 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination - FOX News - Clinton 54, Sanders 39, O'Malley 3 - Clinton +15

We are to believe Hillary fell -11 points over the weekend and Bernie not get a bump in his numbers? He is at 39 points in both polls. Where did those points go?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[Thinkingabout]

1. Hum, wonder how much this bump is from the breached database?

[Tommy2Tone]

2. I wonder how much these polls are from including independents?

[pandr32]

7. Interesting

All that time searching these critical for Sanders primary states. Even though he has "fired" his data guy and "suspended" two other staffers, did any of the stolen information get casually shared with others in the campaign, or less casually utilized? Hopefully the investigation will be extensive and also look at cell phone and e-mail records between campaign staff members, including Sanders and his wife.
We have no answers, and I know that since the DNC is under constant attack from not-so-liberal media and from Bernie supporters they are likely to bend over backwards not to do anything until after the election, or worry that any action could backfire and harm Hillary Clinton who was the victim of the raided information to to the data breach.
I want to make clear that just because a breach has occurred, actually raiding the previously blocked information is unethical. In fact, it is theft. Are we supposed to believe that that critical information was of no interest to anyone else in the campaign, or that they never spoke of it or shared it in any way with others in the Sanders campaign?

[Godhumor]

3. It's one poll. Either others will show the same trend or they won't

Let the Berners have their day, today.

The onslaught of Iowa polling is about to start, so it won't be long before we have something else to talk about.

[William769]

5. Exactly.

[BainsBane]

4. Any one poll can be an outlier

what matters is the polling averages.

[FloridaBlues]

6. I agree this poll is questionable

[NurseJackie]

8. What's the margin of error? Who was polled? How were they polled?

[Tommy2Tone]

9. Exactly my questions

I looked and could not find the data anywhere. Then I remembered it was a poll showing Hillary losing support so that is all the media and Bernie bots need to throw a party.

[Treant]

10. Give it time

We're just barely into the period where polling Iowa and New Hampshire isn't the equivalent of "darts at a dartboard." As we get closer, the data will get better.

Radical shifts in the last week bear watching and poll analysis. Right now, I'm calling this an outlier.

We should also note that primary polling tends to be not very good to begin with. The money to do it just isn't there, so poll quality tends to be far lower than for the general elections.

[Historic NY]

11. Its the arithmetic.....

it doesn't add up