As a 35 y/o male Hillary supporter, you have no idea...
How toxic my social media world has become. Well, you've seen GD: P so you probably get the gist. But holy crap. I've been involved in politics since long before most of my peers, but I'm being called a traitor on a daily basis for not being all-in for Bernie. I actually like Bernie quite a bit, I'm just more of a pragmatist than an idealist, and know that Hillary is both better equipped to win the election and do the job. But my god, these people are frothing at the mouth. Yes, they are the same people that fell in love with Obama in '08 and then did nothing in 2010, and currently live in the anti-Hillary echo chamber of social media. All I try to tell them is hey, Bernie is cool, just remember the big picture and be prepared to vote for whoever the nominee is in November. Remember who the real enemies are.
It scares me that people don't realize how much is at stake in this election. I try to tell them, and they point to ridiculous polls that have Bernie beating the republican field, without realizing that these polls mean nothing because the republican hate machine has yet to turn their guns on Bernie. I try to be reasonable. I don't attack Bernie, I just point out the stakes, and I'm treated as if I'm no better than a republican because I'm not in the tank for the "real" democrat. Like, fuck off, I was busting my ass for Al Gore and John Kerry before you ever even bothered to register to vote.
Anyway, sorry. I swear I'm not a concern troll, I just felt like I needed to vent a little. I don't come to DU much, the '08 Obama vs Hillary wars kind of put me off, but this seems so much worse, at least among my generation. I hope they pull their heads out of their asses soon when it becomes clear that he is likely to lose.
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I rarely go on Facebook anymore because I find so-called friends start sending me endless Bernie memes and horrible ones that paint Hillary out as a sell-out--a corporate/Wall Street shill--the she-devil villain of the 2016 election and right up there with Bush and Cheney for war crimes.
I responded back for a while with some facts, but few people in for Bernie want facts. It is a revolution, after-all, and revolutions get ugly.
I wonder how long it will be before people come back to earth?
Thank you for the healthy dose of optimism
I pretty much feel the same way about Hillary and Bernie. I think Hillary is better suited for the job overall, but it's not like I totally dislike Bernie Sanders. I think you are right about the republicans and Bernie too. They haven't wasted any time on him because they don't think he is going to be the nominee (it's certainly not because they like him). If he was the nominee, I think they'd tear him to shreds. Hillary is going to do better in the debates against the republican nominee, I think. I have this feeling that if Bernie did manage to become president that he would be very ineffective. I don't think he will be able to get the republicans to do anything. I think Hillary, of any democrat out there today, would be able to get something out of the republicans.
I'm close to your age, almost 37. Seems like everyone in the "young" crowd is into Bernie. I feel like I have one foot in the young crowd and one foot in the old crowd at my age. I guess I'm an oldish young person or youngish old person. 
Being a woman, I find it strange that the younger women are not more supportive of Hillary. I think it is perhaps because they have bought into the republican propaganda against her all these years. I've also seen a series of young famous women proclaim themselves to not be feminists over the last year or so... I think even Lady Gaga, of all people... so maybe I shouldn't be surprised by this. I guess I don't understand. I'm just a touch too old to relate. I don't understand why it is suddenly cool to proclaim yourself to not be a feminist. It's just not at all how I was raised and how I thought things would be like when I got older. This country seems to be in a total regressive period right now. We're backtracking on progress made years ago.
that even if Bernie did somehow win the election, he'd be so ineffective in office that he'd quite likely be a one-term president. We're SO CLOSE to being able to make genuine, revolutionary change --a new court, a new census in 2020-- that if we just hold the line a little while longer we might actually see the honest-to-God death of the Republican Party by 2024, and right now we just need someone to hold the line. Hillary is perfectly suited for that role.
We're definitely in a regressive period, but I think it's mostly because we've got the republicans cornered and scared. I think we'll come out better on the other end for it.
As for your anti-feminist friends, my peer group is all over the map on that. There are so many different definitions for what a feminist even is supposed to be right now I think a lot of people want to avoid the label because it's been stripped of most of its meaning. I probably shouldn't speak on that any further though, as I really have no idea what I'm talking about 
Cheers to you, though
I'm in the same situation as you.
Just hang in there as best you can.
She was being insulted daily in the same way that you are. She said that she just needed to take a break from social media until the election is over.
Those supporters aren't doing their candidate any favors by bullying and attacking Clinton backers. I think that it will actually get worse after next Tues. when denial and anger over the situation starts to set in. There will probably be cries of voter fraud, etc.
Hang in there. It might help to take a break or maybe temporarily "unfollow" the worst of them.
I think Bernie actually pointed out, "After all, we're not Republicans!"
Which begs the question - just exactly who are these people who troll and disrupt the social networks? 
