Hillary Clinton Room-A bit of Meta and a warning for Hillary supporters on DU.

[hrmjustin]

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HILLARY CLINTON ROOM POST


As you know it is not easy being a Clinton supporter on DU and we are clearly in the minority among the active posters on DU. Unfortunately in the past few months are numbers have gotten smaller because of members getting 5 hide vacations and people leaving DU because it has gotten too nasty. No one side is completely innocent or guilty because we all have our faults.

Having said that i would like to remind Hillary supporters that there are members here that are baiting you and want to get your posts hidden. We all know the usual suspects that do this so there is no need to mention names and risk hidden posts here. Please consider putting some of these posters on ignore if you get hidden posts from time to time when dealing with them.

Now that I am on Mirt and forum hosting I get a fuller picture of how things go down in GD and other forums.

I see several on our side getting frustrated with certain posters and posting about it and then getting hidden posts and getting flagged or 5 hide vacations.

Remember that they outnumber us and if you start insulting by name the more prominent Anti-Hillary posters there friends will alert and your posts will be hidden. This is how it is.

You must be calm, cool, and collected when dealing with those who disagree with you on Hillary. Remember that most people here have honest opinions and all have feelings. Remember they are our brothers and sisters in the fight to make our nation to be a better place.

Stand up for Hillary and do it vigorously but also remember to be cautious when dealing with certain posters. Be clever but be cautious.




When responding to this do not mention posters by nsme because peopls are always looking to alert.

And

This is posted in the Hillary Clinton Room.


UPDATE YOUR JURY BLACKLIST.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Good post.

DU has a lot of tolerance for foul language and general bad behavior, but not when it is directed at a specific person or a protected group.

You can be very effective in responding to jackasses through ridicule rather than insults and through general implications rather than targeted slams.

And, yes, the drumbeat for "Not Hillary" is loud and monotonous, but it's going to get worse. God help us if she gets elected.

[hrmjustin]

3. i hate seeing good people be forced off by forced vacations and those who feel the need

to leave.

We need everyone.

[DURHAM D]

2. Putting posters on Ignore doesn't seem

like a good idea to me. If you have them on Ignore you don't get to serve on a jury for their posts. This diminishes us further.

A little self-discipline seems a better solution. Also, stay out of their nasty threads so you increase the chance you will be called to jury.

[hrmjustin]

4. Skinner changed the rule.

You can sit on juries for those you have on ignore.

[DURHAM D]

5. Good to know.

I was not aware he changed that. I didn't spend much time on DU for a couple of years because the sexist pigs have taken over the farm yard.

[hrmjustin]

6. I think it was changed last year.

[DURHAM D]

8. Thanks.

A another reminder to HRC supporters: Update your Jury Blacklist.

I just checked my list and can not update because I don't have a Star and the reason I don't have a Star at this time is because of the pig problem mentioned above. However, my old list dovetails nicely with HRC bashers.

go figure

[hrmjustin]

9. I added your warning about jury blacklists to the op.

[onehandle]

7. What I have been doing...

...is not defending Hillary for the most part (pointless when dealing with dittoheads, of a sort) and not attacking other declared or undeclared candidates. I rarely attack Democrats anyway, so that's easy.

We are still months away from debates and I will not play into the hands of the right-wing by letting negativity tear down our base. We're in the building phase or the game of elections, not the game play itself.

Mostly, I post positive news items and photos about Hillary, and walk away. The things I post are not for their eyes anyway.

I called out one of them over the weekend for adding an unrelated cherry picked unflattering photo of Hillary to a post, that ended up being linked to a right-wing writer. They would not budge until one of their own suggested deleting the thread, which they did.

Let them do Fox News' job for them. I will not.

[hrmjustin]

10. You do a great job my friend.

[leftofcool]

11. I just started putting people on ignore so I don't get juried!

[hrmjustin]

12. Better to ignore those who cause issues.

[KMOD]

13. That's good advice, Justin.

I think I might just stick to rec'ing threads, and hanging out in the lounge for awhile.

[hrmjustin]

14. And here.

A few good ignores and trash threads makes the place seem more manageable.

[KMOD]

15. yes.

And here, too.

[hrmjustin]

16. .

[Cha]

17. Thoughtful, informative reminder, Justin,

of how to deal and interact with the anti-Hillary baiters.

You know I know exactly how you feel.. as President Obama supporters are in the same unique boat. We have an exceptionally fine, accomplished President.. and he has beautiful supporters on DU, including yourself.. but, seemingly the majority don't know enough beyond.. "he's a trojan horse"

There really is a fine art to getting across what you want to say without getting a hide. And, sometimes we just say "Bucket" it.. that's when you really have to keep editing until you get it right! lol

[hrmjustin]

18. Thanks Cha!

It is just so sad that some need to treat the president like garbage.

I think you did great in his thread and you have many friends here.

[Cha]

19. I love the people here who see the whole forest!

Mahalo Justin

[hrmjustin]

20. And mark my words, if Sanders got elected some of his suppirters now will trash him.

[Gothmog]

26. I started to respond to the trojan horse thread and then got very very busy

The darn real world keeps getting in the way.

I have yet to get a hide on DU but I normally do not confront people on DU (that is saved for another board). I am now engaging more on this DU and so better think about my jury blacklist.

[Cha]

35. Darn pesky real life that gets in the way of counteracting propaganda on an internet board!

[Gothmog]

21. Good post

Thank you. Does anyone have a good list of people to put on jury blacklist?

[hrmjustin]

22. Well we can pm each other but can't say it publicly.

[Gothmog]

24. That is fine

I have never bothered with a jury blacklist on DU (I keep my blacklist on DI current) because I rarely post anything confrontation here until these anti-HRC threads started.

[hrmjustin]

25. Mine are mostly from the religion room wars.

[Gothmog]

28. Those wars are interesting

I am non-christian believer and so some of the non-believers do not know how to deal with me.

[hrmjustin]

29. Oh they work around it.

Lol.

[hrmjustin]

23. And thanks.

[Gothmog]

27. BTW, you are doing a great job here

[hrmjustin]

30. Thank you so much.

[Cha]

37. ..

Agree!

[hrmjustin]

38. Thanks Cha!

We are all in this together.

[Cha]

36. 2nd the motion!

[Iliyah]

31. Claiming to be a Liberal and or Progressive is all talk in some of the cases here at the DU

Democracy is just a word to to some here. Liberal, Progressive and Democracy go hand and hand. Talk is cheap, actions speaks volumes.

Democratic Underground . . .

For all who are respectful even though my choice for president is not yours.

[hrmjustin]

32. DU is not as fun as it used to be but we will get though it.

[Iliyah]

33. As Gloria Gaynor - I will survive - LOL

Keep up the good work!

[hrmjustin]

34. Lol thanks.

[Hekate]

39. Wise words, Justin.

I've become quite discouraged about the venomous attacks on both Obama and HRC ... I've had a couple of alerts, but no hides, so there's that. Mostly I am worried about a couple of my DU friends who have a hard time walking away from fighting words addressed to themselves (you know who you are ) and I just do not want to see such valuable members of this board goaded into exile.

I've started trashing threads and have put a handful of posters on Ignore. Thanks for the advice about the Jury blacklist -- I never used that feature before.

[hrmjustin]

42. Well said.

I want a few to put a few on ignore.

Some are only here to bait.

[okasha]

40. A bit more meta--

I just ran across a thread in which a poster stated he was withdrawing his support from Senator Sanders. You can imagine the responses, but one of the faithful told the poster that "if Bernie was truly in your heart" he'd stay with Sanders even if the Senator's proposed legislation damaged him financially.

WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE GOT HERE? IS IT A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN OR A FREAKIN'.TENT REVIVAL?



Sorry about that. I feel better now.

On the way here I stopped by the Pets Group to see the new baby clouded leopards. Guaranteed to lower blood pressure and induce an endorphin cascade.

[hrmjustin]

41. oh please pm me that link.

Thanks.

[hrmjustin]

45. He is now a divinity!

[okasha]

46. Just any minute now,

I'm going to break into "Just As I Am."




(For those not familiar, it's an old "altar call" hymn used notably by Billy Graham, sung while the new converts went to the front of the hall to be "saved.&quot

[hrmjustin]

47. Or Here I am Lord.

This gets weirder and weirder.

[okasha]

48. The only thing that stops me from referring to him henceforward

as Our Lord and Savior Bernie is that some of his supporters are people I truly respect. There's a difference between "All in for Bernie" and "Around the Bend for Bernie."

[hrmjustin]

49. Agreed.

[leftofcool]

54. I remember this song from my youth.

[OKNancy]

43. I expect attacks on Hillary... but it's the personal attacks and snark toward her supporters

that is so awful. Anyone who posts anything good about Hillary or disputes something is attacked.
Rarely are they hidden.

Once again, we can sit back and hold on... Hillary has this.

[hrmjustin]

44. This is why i don't post my ops in gd.

People who treat me like garbage now were treating me very nicely last year.

[KMOD]

53. Any positive HRC post is immediately

criticized. I can usually the criticisms and I try to fight back with facts. But the personal insults and attacks against posters are what aggravate me the most.

I don't mind when they are aimed at me, I can handle it. But it certainly is causing an intimidating atmosphere. I'm sure there are many HRC supporters who do not speak their mind, because of it. But that's the game plan, I'm sure.

[hrmjustin]

50. kicking.

[applegrove]

51. As always the paid GOP sock puppets like to foment anger and isolation on the DU so that no

undecided voter would be swayed by there short stay here to 1) vote for Hillary 2) vote democratic.

[hrmjustin]

52. Agreed. the gop have socks here.