Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumRevolutions are not popularity contests where the highest score wins.
Revolutions don't revolve around numbers. They never have and they never will. They are the pure essential spirit of progress. And they have a tendency of succeeding even when no one thinks that success is possible. Consider the following: The American Revolution didn't have the support of a majority of Americans. Less that a decade before, Thomas Jefferson stated that is was the goal of every American to be a good and loyal citizen and supporter of the Crown. During the civil war, the lives of black people in the North were nearly every bit as hellish as they were in the South. Bands of bounty hunters chasing down escaped slaves operated freely throughout the Union right up the day that the Emancipation Proclamation became the law of the land. Acts of lynching of black people in the Northern cities of New York, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia increased dramatically during the conflict. A German pastor speaking at a protest at the Berlin Wall the morning of November 9, 1989 said that his dream to see that wall come down sometime during his lifetime. The Berlin Wall opened to full travel that very same evening.
I voted for Bernie Sanders on Super Tuesday yesterday.
The delegate count doesn't matter to me. His losses in Massachusetts and the South don't matter to me. Hell, even the fact that I voted for Hillary over Obama in 2008 doesn't matter to me. I voted for Bernie Sanders because it was simply the right thing to do.
OK, then. Why in the hell am I posting this on the Hillary forum?
Please understand something. If it were up to Bernie he would just as soon stay in his humble role as a faithful and dedicated senator from a small state and stay out of the limelight. Hillary Clinton has been passionately running for president for over a decade. She has coveted that position in the White House since the day her husband took the oath in January 1993. Make no mistake, that woman has worked her tail off for the past generation to achieve this goal and there are very, very few people in this country that can make a credible claim that they deserve this job more than she does. Bernie, on the other hand, is running for president because we literally forced him to do so against his will. He said no a thousand times before that essential spirit of true progress finally coerced him to say yes. Bernie relented because he knows this is not a campaign, this is a revolution. And this is a revolution that I am truly honored to be a part of. And as a Democrat, I feel that I owe it to all of Hillary's supporters to bare my soul to you so that even thought we strongly disagree, you will get the full explanation that you deserve.
This revolution truly frightens you. Given how the Republican Party has now become a fascist criminal organization I truly understand the fear you feel. But there is one and only one path that will lead to the defeat of fascism in the United States of America and that is the path of True Progressivism. The only time in my life that I ever cast a vote that made me feel as proud to be an American as the one I cast for Bernie yesterday was the very first vote I ever cast as a 19-year-old way back in 1990 for a man named Paul Wellstone. I was honored to do so again in 1996 and would've been doing so to this very day if not for the fact that Paul boarded a plane in October 2002 heading north and eight hours later I was crying. Those burning tears I wept back then have become the "Bern" I feel today. Myself and millions of others have taken Paul's broken wings and we have given them to Bernie. And whether he soars for two full terms or only two more months, my fellow revolutionaries and I are blessed to watch Bernie fly.
My God, how we love to watch him fly.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)You know the REAL revolution, that none of YOU are talking about is the WOMEN. Think about it. As evidenced at the polls, the electorate of women are for Hillary. I think that scares the shit out of the ones who swallow the patriarchal palaver.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)The Democratic Party has heard Bernie Sanders, and, as of this date, has declined his revolution. I believe it will continue to do so.
Your post is eloquent, but inappropriate.
GoldenThunder
(300 posts)...when those "Too Big To Fail" banks that are supporting Hillary today inevitably and totally collapse, bringing the nation down with it and leaving a wide-open path for the fascists to take total control of America by force.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)If you don't answer "the biggest stock market crash in history", I have to wonder if you gave the question any thought.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,368 posts)your watching Bernie fly.
Me, I prefer to have someone more down to earth who has shown by her track record of impressive accomplishments that she can actually accomplish something.
And yes, in addition to Hillary's extraordinary intelligence and personal warmth, impressive educational background, varied work experience (her only full-time job wasn't just in the public sector and only then at the age of 40; she worked in the private sector as a well-respected lawyer in the 1980s and with the Clinton Foundation in recent years), long experience in activism where she actually was able to change things for the better for many of the most vulnerable here and abroad, successful experience as a well-liked and respected Senator from one of the most populous and diverse states in the US, extraordinary service as the most globally respected US Secretary of State in recent years (Kerry may approach that, but not yet), the fact that she is a woman is the cherry on top.
I am very sorry that you cannot appreciate that. Paul Wellstone most certainly would have. Al Franken, who knew Paul much better than you or I ever did, certainly does.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This is not a forum, it is a group, please respect our group. You selected the Hillary group in which to post.
GoldenThunder
(300 posts)That's why I asked that very same question in my post. You'll find the answer there as well.
I'm not asking for your approval. I'm just asking that you read it.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Plus, when he gets banned from this group he can go tell GDP what a martyr he is.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)This revolution truly frightens you.
HAH! As I said before, your revolution is not real. But then again, since I'm a woman, what the hell would I know?
(not directed at the poster I'm replying to, but the OP)
Seriously though, the real revolution? Minorities are speaking, and speaking loudly. Women are speaking, and speaking loudly. Not a one of us are willing to be silenced by the OP and his ilk.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I do not like disparaging remarks in the Hillary group.
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sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Poster has been banned from HC group.
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)But can we let this stand, just for the entertainment value? It's pretty epic.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)But I'm only one host,not sure how the others feel. I think or a pretty good example of "Bernie thought".
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Pathetic!
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Yeah, actually, that is pretty scary.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)If not exactly part of the establishment or the regime, then collaborators.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)The path of the true progressive. Okay...
Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Funny how they are coming out of the woodworks.
Must have gotten a new smartphone for Christmas.
Cha
(297,190 posts)disrupt with some big ol talk about "revolution" and it doesn't mean a damn thing.
I won't be reading it.. but, just an educated guess.. I bet it's boring.
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)beholder.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)How unDemocratic to suggest your fellow Democrats are your enemy.
Hillary is a true progressive, one who has and will get progressive legislation passed.
I am happy to have Bernie stay in the Senate and continue to name post offices.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)We have just come to different conclusions about how is best!!! Geesh!!
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Revolution, spoken by a self proclaimed socialist.
It's a kill switch for minorities, Latinos and Asians especially. There is a reason the only states you are winning are white.
Please proceed with it's use, poster
romana
(765 posts)White liberals have the luxury of revolution. Minorities, including women and PoC, do not.
artyteacher
(598 posts)But let me say I respect Bernie and I understand a lot of what you're saying, but your revolution is in your own mind... or the minds of a lot of people... but really a minority in a bubble. Tyt and others have been sucked into your bubble too, and just don't see the big picture and the facts of what's going on. It's like they forgot who Nate Silver was!
To me your revolution is revolting, not scary. The GOP is scary. You're group is sometimes well meaning and sometimes just a tool of the GOP. When some of you pass on GOP lies and go as far as calling Democratic heroes like Bill Clinton scumbags, I know you don't have a revolution.
I hope some of what Bernie wants to push gets done eventually but, like Nader, your side is fighting the wrong enemy and enabling the real bad guys.