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lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:00 AM Mar 2016

Sanders to Sierra Blanca: "Drop Dead!"

Sierra Blanca, Bernie Sanders, Paul Wellstone, a Poor Minority Community and a Nuclear Waste Dump

In 1998, then Representative Bernie Sanders cosponsored and actively ushered a bill through Congress that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump their nuclear waste in the poor disadvantaged Hispanic community of Sierra Blanca, Texas.

Three West Texan protestors went to Vermont to plead with then Representative Sanders that the dump site shouldn't be located in this poor minority community, Mr. Sanders told the three activists, "My position is unchanged and you’re not going to like it.” When asked if he would at least visit the proposed site in Sierra Blanca, he said: “Absolutely not. I'm gonna to be running for re-election in the state of Vermont."

“He didn't listen,” Curry said. “He had his mind made up."

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Reading this article, I had a real sense that Mr. Sanders just didn't care about their concerns or the plight of this poor Hispanic community. It wasn't his community to care about. If history tells us anything about minority communities they seemingly always get the short end of the stick. Flint, MI is one such community that comes to mind. In this case, the community of Sierra Blanca didn't have any real political clout and they were reaching out to Mr. Sanders for help.

Mr. Sanders could have stood behind this very poor Hispanic community, but as his response to the protestors revealed, he chose the political expedient route. In this case, he didn't stand up for the less fortunate in Sierra Blanca.

Paul Wellstone would later call this injustice against the people of Sierra Blanca a case of "environmental racism”.
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In 1998, then Representative Bernie Sanders cosponsored and actively ushered a bill through Congress that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump their nuclear waste in the poor disadvantaged Hispanic community of Sierra Blanca, Texas.

Three West Texan protestors went to Vermont to plead with then Representative Sanders that the dump site shouldn't be located in this poor minority community, Mr. Sanders told the three activists, "My position is unchanged and you’re not going to like it.” When asked if he would at least visit the proposed site in Sierra Blanca, he said: “Absolutely not. I'm gonna to be running for re-election in the state of Vermont."

“He didn't listen,” Curry said. “He had his mind made up."

::

Reading this article, I had a real sense that Mr. Sanders just didn't care about their concerns or the plight of this poor Hispanic community. It wasn't his community to care about. If history tells us anything about minority communities they seemingly always get the short end of the stick. Flint, MI is one such community that comes to mind. In this case, the community of Sierra Blanca didn't have any real political clout and they were reaching out to Mr. Sanders for help.

Mr. Sanders could have stood behind this very poor Hispanic community, but as his response to the protestors revealed, he chose the political expedient route. In this case, he didn't stand up for the less fortunate in Sierra Blanca.

Paul Wellstone would later call this injustice against the people of Sierra Blanca a case of "environmental racism”.



''I think maybe they choose us because we are a small town, because we are so distant from everyone and because we have no political power,'' Ms. Bustamante said. ''I think maybe they are taking advantage of us. I believe that most of the people are opposed to it.''

Now compare this with the late, great Paul Wellstone, who fought with passion on the Senate floor for this poor disadvantaged community. His impassioned speech for the people of Sierra Blanca was a shining moment on the Senate floor.

For Mr. Wellstone, reaching out, helping and fighting for minorities came naturally. He immediately recognized the injustice and fought for this community, like it was his very own.

www.austinchronicle.com/...

More...http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/8/1481494/-Sierra-Blanca-Bernie-Sanders-Paul-Wellstone-a-Poor-Minority-Community-and-a-Nuclear-Waste-Dump
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Sanders to Sierra Blanca: "Drop Dead!" (Original Post) lunamagica Mar 2016 OP
You can't hear if you are shouting. I am glad Hillary opened her campaign Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #1
She did the same in NY when she ran for the Senate. Lucinda Mar 2016 #3
listening tours! Her Sister Mar 2016 #5
Sierra Blanca is the site of the largest sewage waste dump in the United States . . . but . . . Petrushka Mar 2016 #2
years please!? Her Sister Mar 2016 #4
"I'm going to be running for re-election in the State of Vermont" pandr32 Mar 2016 #10
If I'm not mistaken, the so-called "poop trains" carrying sewage waste from New York . . . Petrushka Mar 2016 #14
How Sanders Cleared Way to Dump Toxic Nuclear Waste on Poor Hispanics (and How They Fought Back) lunamagica Mar 2016 #7
See reply 14 above. (eom) Petrushka Mar 2016 #15
Huh? This has nothing to do with the OP. You've gone way off-topic lunamagica Mar 2016 #17
I was under the impression that the OP was about "environmental racism" because . . . Petrushka Mar 2016 #24
Big time deflection. The OP is about SBS, who is currently running for POTUS lunamagica Mar 2016 #27
In reply to your question, "Are you really OK with this?"---with reference to a quotation . . . Petrushka Mar 2016 #28
The examples in this piece are all from the 1990's. HRC wasn't a Senator then. LisaM Mar 2016 #11
See reply 14 above. (eom) Petrushka Mar 2016 #16
Lamest excuse I saw on DU cosmicone Mar 2016 #6
K&R for exposure lunamagica Mar 2016 #8
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #9
"Mr. Sanders could have stood behind this very poor Hispanic community, but as his response to the lunamagica Mar 2016 #12
K&R UtahLib Mar 2016 #13
I hope there is a debate or town hall in Arizona before next Tuesday. George II Mar 2016 #18
Yes. Everybody needs to know about this lunamagica Mar 2016 #19
Indeed...about the poll results all summer and fall - "wait until they get to know him"! George II Mar 2016 #20
This is particularly true of Latinos. Take his vote against comprehensive immigration reform lunamagica Mar 2016 #21
Not to mention his praise for the Castro regime (which Univision also showed) George II Mar 2016 #22
I forgot about that. It was the last nail on the FL coffin. I wonder how they found that video lunamagica Mar 2016 #23
Hopefully a town hall cause in debates BS won't let her talk and Iliyah Mar 2016 #26
Kicking. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #25

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. You can't hear if you are shouting. I am glad Hillary opened her campaign
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:09 AM
Mar 2016

Sitting down and listening to citizens, building an agenda to work with Americans rather than making an agenda to suit her needs.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
2. Sierra Blanca is the site of the largest sewage waste dump in the United States . . . but . . .
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:35 AM
Mar 2016
. . . it's sewage from New York that's being dumped there, not nuclear waste from Vermont or anywhere else.

http://www.txpeer.org/toxictour/merco.html




pandr32

(11,589 posts)
10. "I'm going to be running for re-election in the State of Vermont"
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

Whatever happened to "I have spent my career fighting for human rights", and/or "check my record" ???
He is nothing more than a politician with a niche and the usual self-interest.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
14. If I'm not mistaken, the so-called "poop trains" carrying sewage waste from New York . . .
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:18 AM
Mar 2016

. . . to Sierra Blanca stopped sometime in 2001. There's a PDF file online from 2007, however, indicating that there was (is?) a controversy concerning accepting poop from New york again.

I didn't have time to do any further research; but here's a link to the PDF I mentioned: http://intrabecc.cocef.org/programs/intranetnotasperiodico/uploadedFiles/sierra.pdf

Hope that helps to answer your first question.

As for your second question: I don't see how it's in any way relevant to Sierra Blanca.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
17. Huh? This has nothing to do with the OP. You've gone way off-topic
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

This thread is about how Sanders Co-sponsored a bill to send Vermont's nuclear waste to Sierra Blanca.

Sierra Blanca was chosen because although it's poor, mostly Latino population didn't want the nuclear waste in their backyard (who would), they couldn't fight back.

Thankfully, Sen. Paul Wellstone became their champion, and fought for them and their rights.

What About Sierra Blanca, Bernie?': From the Rio Grande to Reparations.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eoin-higgins/what-about-sierra-blanca-bernie_b_9233818.html


Sierra Blanca, Bernie Sanders, Paul Wellstone, a Poor Minority Community and a Nuclear Waste Dump
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/8/1481494/-Sierra-Blanca-Bernie-Sanders-Paul-Wellstone-a-Poor-Minority-Community-and-a-Nuclear-Waste-Dump

#VettingBernie: How Sanders Cleared Way to Dump Toxic Nuclear Waste on Poor Hispanics (and How They Fought Back)
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/2/17/when-brown-lives-did-not-matter-to-bernie

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
24. I was under the impression that the OP was about "environmental racism" because . . .
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

. . . the following sentence was posted in a "bold" typeface, viz:
Paul Wellstone would later call this injustice against the people of Sierra Blanca a case of "environmental racism”.

Therefore, it seemed only proper that attention be given to the actual waste dumped at Sierra Blanca---namely, sewage from New York---rather than what might have been dumped---low-level nuclear waste (80% from Texas, 10% from Maine, & 10% from Vermont)---nuclear waste that was not dumped . . . not dumped because people protested.

Thank you, nevertheless, for all of the links you posted. I've read through some of them and bookmarked other links to look at later. If nothing else, those links helped me to understand that Sanders was only one of 23 sponsors of HR629---17 of those sponsors from Texas, 2 from Maine, 1 from Louisiana, 1 from North Carolina, & 1 from Vermont---not to mention that HR629 was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Does that make all of those sponsors plus the members of Congress who voted for the bill and the then-President advocates of "environmental racism"? If not, why not?

You said that what I wrote was "off topic" as if to suggest that you're willing to dismiss or ignore the fact that New York's sewage dumped in Sierra Blanca created a very real environmental problem for that community . . . a very real environmental problem caused, back then, knowingly or unknowingly, with every flush of a New York toilet. Does that mean New Yorkers who pooped and flushed deserve to be accused of "environmental racism"? How about the Clintons? I mean: Didn't they move to New York in 1999, at a time when the "poop trains" were still headed for Sierra Blanca?

Oh, but that's different . . . because it's off-topic . . . right? (** sigh **)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
27. Big time deflection. The OP is about SBS, who is currently running for POTUS
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016

on a platform of being a civil rights champion, a fighter for the downtrodden. It is about him *HIM* co-sponsoring and actively promoting a bill for dumping NUCLEAR waste in a very poor town, because they were powerless to fight back.

If it weren't for Paul Wellstone, those poor people would be living and having to deal with the Waste Sanders didn't want on his backyard. That is what Sanders campaigned for.

So, other 23 voted for it...seriously? 23 voted in favor of this flawed, immoral bill, so that makes it OK?

How many of those 23 are running for POTUS?

"Three West Texan protestors went to Vermont to plead with then Representative Sanders that the dump site shouldn't be located in this poor minority community, Mr. Sanders told the three activists, "My position is unchanged and you’re not going to like it.” When asked if he would at least visit the proposed site in Sierra Blanca, he said: “Absolutely not. I'm gonna to be running for re-election in the state of Vermont."

“He didn't listen,” Curry said. “He had his mind made up." '

Are you really OK with this?

And please, if you want to discuss the NY sewage, start your own thread. this thread is about SBS and his advocacy to dump his state's nuclear waste on the poor, and powerless residents of Sierra Blanca.

Petrushka

(3,709 posts)
28. In reply to your question, "Are you really OK with this?"---with reference to a quotation . . .
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

. . . from the article linked in the OP: Of course, I'm not OK with it. I come from a poor rural State (West--by God!--Virginia) and know well enough where out-of-state waste is dumped!

But . . . I am especially not OK with that article's questionable headline: Sanders to Sierra Blanca: "Drop Dead!"

Are we to honestly think Sanders actually told the people of Sierra Blanca to drop dead? Or did the writer believe, simply, that every reader had been conditioned to swallow such political propaganda whole? In any case . . . hearsay is just that: hearsay.

If you've read the text of the Public Law 105-206---passed by the House & Senate** (and, then, signed into law by President Bill Clinton, who could have vetoed it)---you must have noticed that Sierra Blanca is not mentioned therein.

From what I've read, it's my understanding that Sanders co-sponsored a bill that, eventually, created the law governing low-level nuclear waste disposal in Texas. It was the responsibility of the great State of Texas to determine where the disposal site would be located. It was Vermont's and Maine's responsibility to provide their share of the funds necessary to construct the disposal facility . . . not to determine the feasibility of the disposal site nor its location. Sanders responsibility was to his constituents in Vermont---just as all those elected representatives from Texas were responsible to theirs. Or, were they?***

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**The House of Representatives voted 305 to 117 in favor of the bill . . . 70% for & 27% against, with 3% (12 members) not voting.
The Senate voted 78 (78%) to 15 (15%) in favor . . . with 7 (7%) not voting.

***For what it's worth: There were times when I was told by our own elected "representatives" in DC that, no matter how much they'd like to help, federal law didn't permit them to interfere with decisions made by our state!

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P.S.
Forgive me if you find this reply off-topic again. From now on, I'll try to be more aware of where my replies are being posted. I mean: When I posted my initial reply, I didn't notice this was a protected group. Since then, I feel like I'm walking on eggs. And, so, I won't continue to beat the same dead horse with further replies.



LisaM

(27,815 posts)
11. The examples in this piece are all from the 1990's. HRC wasn't a Senator then.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

However, I am sorry that anyone is moving any kind of toxic waste into their neighborhood.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
12. "Mr. Sanders could have stood behind this very poor Hispanic community, but as his response to the
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:42 PM
Mar 2016

protestors revealed, he chose the political expedient route. In this case, he didn't stand up for the less fortunate in Sierra Blanca."

That's it, in a nutshell.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
21. This is particularly true of Latinos. Take his vote against comprehensive immigration reform
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

with a path to citizenship -Univision did a brilliant move during the debate, showing a clip Sanders on anti-immigrant Lou Dobb's program, in which Sanders shows that his vote against the bill had nothing to do with concern for immigrants...ouch.

His Minutemen vote, which was a stand alone amendment.

And now this...Sierra Blanca.

To know him is to love him...not.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
23. I forgot about that. It was the last nail on the FL coffin. I wonder how they found that video
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

It looked to be around 30 years ago

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
26. Hopefully a town hall cause in debates BS won't let her talk and
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:30 PM
Mar 2016

he always want the last word.

K & R for exposure

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