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BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:25 PM Mar 2016

Hill's Group: Interesting tidbits from FiveThirtyEight

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-15-primaries-ohio-florida-results-presidential-election-2016/

There are some, mostly supporters of the Other Candidate, who are criticizing FiveThirtyEight for its predictions on MI, failing to understand that the polls are what they are and Nate & Co, make their predictions based on polls conducted by other people. There is some discussion of the MI result at the link.

The link is to their Live Coverage Thread. Scroll down to see what Harry Enten has to say about demographics-based predictions and just above that, a later post by Nate, showing those demographics. The results are mostly favorable to Hillary, although not nearly in the percentages that the polls show in some instances.

Please let these favorable predictions be true!
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Hill's Group: Interesting tidbits from FiveThirtyEight (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 OP
Part of the dilemma... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #1
Never! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #4
Well, there have been several scenarios hypothesized. longship Mar 2016 #2
My best to you - even if BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #5
Excellent points ... LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #6
Just a leetle correction ... BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #3

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. Part of the dilemma...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016

is how to weight the 'unlikely' voter, including the younger set with a cell phone who may show up if a candidate targets them in particular!

Throw in Spring Break and 'early voting' - Gallup got out of election polling when they couldn't figure out a way to make it work anymore.

Now the M$M "news" networks do the polling - and their agendas can be unfathomable - they wouldn't massage polling to create a "news" story like "Michigan upset victory" - they wouldn't do that, would they?

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Well, there have been several scenarios hypothesized.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

The southern vs. northern hypothesis.
The young vs. the olds.
The black vs. white hypothesis.
The open primary vs. closed primary hypothesis.
The rust belt hypothesis.

What I think all of us should take away from this primary season is that this shit is complicated, multi-factorial. Nobody has a crystal ball. Polling is really, really difficult in the best of times. And let's all understand that these are not the best of times. I don't pay much attention to the primary polls. But yup! They are still fun. So I don't blame folks for cheering on their candidate. I do it, too.

However, I believe that the only indisputable truth in getting Democrats into office is turnout.

Now, my primary vote won't make any difference now since I live in Michigan and I voted for Bernie. But we fight amongst each other at our collective peril. Only by working together to GOTV in November can we insure a win. And it isn't just about the White House -- let's make that clear as well.

Vote for the candidate of your choice, but for Christ sakes, vote Democratic in November.

As always, my best to you all in the Hillary group. May the best candidate win in November. We know it will one on the Democratic ballot. If we stick together.


BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
5. My best to you - even if
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:50 PM
Mar 2016

we are on different sides in this primary divide!

We have so much more in common than not. And we have absolutely zilch in common with the GOPers.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
6. Excellent points ...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

I remind myself that the race will be Dem vs Rep from July - Nov, so there is plenty of time to bury the wackos this summer and fall.

My theory is you get older and voting may seem a given .... then you have a child turn 18, and it suddenly becomes another important lesson for you family. All the best to you.

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