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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-continues-to-dominate-caucuses-but-hes-about-to-run-out-of-them/Bernie Sanders won a trifecta of states on Saturday. He put up big victories in Alaska, Hawaii and Washington, after carrying Idaho and Utah earlier in the week. Sanders beat his delegate targets by a solid margin in all five of these states and closed Hillary Clintons pledged delegate lead to just north of 225.1 In doing so, Sanders highlighted an ongoing Clinton weakness: caucuses. All five of Sanderss wins this week came in caucuses. The problem for the Sanders campaign is that there are only two caucuses left on the Democratic primary calendar.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)must be bracing for some hate tweets.
George II
(67,782 posts)....in territories.
Wyoming and North Dakota are the states (32 total delegates), and Guam, the Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico.
Not many left to play to his strengths, which are very small caucus states/territories.
Where he's been weak has been larger primary states with large urban areas, and there are several of them left - New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and California.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)As in, when they moved to whiter states. Now, however, regardless of what Jane Sanders said about states with diverse populations, they have very few states where they will win, and practically none where they will win in the order of magnitude he needs. After his landslides two days ago, his needed percentages shifted just a few percentage points, from 58% to 56.5%.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Of President Ron Paul.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)It is the path of a libertarian candidate, he would try to load the caucus states to gain delegate counts.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)We keep hearing what an amazing truth-telling progressive he is but listen to him talk and it's all Dem-bash all the time. Are there any of his lines that aren't retooled RW talking points?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Back to his district by attaching ear marks to bills he knew was going to pass and then he would vote against the bill. Like lying by omission. There are several chemical plants which was in his district but he was know for bringing home the money. He wanted to audit the feds, complained about money spent but when he traveled it was not preplanned so his flights was top dollar and he flew home every weekend. His constituents was never going to vote him out, he took care of them with tax payer projects. Sounds like a repeat of his campaign.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)He's a clever one. Did the same with AUMF and TPP come to think of it -- voted to fund the DOD the same day he valiantly voted against the AUMF and met with the US trade rep repeatedly to cut deals for Vermont while complaining loudly that it was a big secret conspiracy and no one but Obama and his corporate cronies could see it
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-continues-to-dominate-caucuses-but-hes-about-to-run-out-of-them/
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)I'd expect to see uncommitted super delegates flocking to endorse him.
Hasn't happened. Won't happen.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)picture. Trump is so unique and polarizing that it looks like there is some mix-up and crossover gong on that is far out of the ordinary.
Iamaartist
(3,300 posts)Some how I also think there is some shenanigans going with Bernie to....
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)because he wanted to stop Trump, but he initially liked Trump (he looked positively....agitated, best word I can think of...). Posts get hidden here if you state the truth about Trump and Sanders supporters having crossover appeal, but it's the truth and the media acknowledges it, Sanders himself said as much, and some people here have said their platforms intersect (but they think they are going after the right kind of Trump voter, lol) . But you can't say that here....
You are right. Shenanigans in both....
Hence some of the weird caucus results...
shenmue
(38,506 posts)In big states with regular primaries, he stalls.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)I hope my comment doesn't offend or "embarrass"
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I wholeheartedly agree.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:15 AM - Edit history (1)
1) Open Caucuses (favorite)
2) Closed Caucuses
3) Open Primaries
4) Mixed Primaries
5) Closed Primaries (least favorite)
Obviously Sanders does better in open contest because independents have be lining up to vote for him. However, I don't think many of them are the kind of people that we think of as independents - middle of the road people who don't want to belong to either party.
I think that a lot of them are the kind of independents who are too liberal to be Democrats. The rest of them are the kind of independents that are sick and tired of gridlock in Washington, but would never vote for Trump.
Princess Turandot
(4,787 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)for posting this. Math is evil!
nygurl
(33 posts)A friend of mine was making calls to Hillary voters in Washington, trying to get them to attend caucuses. Over and over women said they didn't want to subject themselves to hours of rude pushy young white boys lecturing them on Bernie's fabulousness and Hillary's horrors. So they didn't go.
The most undemocratic type of voting, caucuses are highly evolved forms of voter suppression. Unless you're young and privileged, you need to leave your job for hours, with money for transportation, money for child care, and the stomach for confrontation.
kjones
(1,053 posts)would probably be voter suppression and forbidden within x00 feet of
a polling place in primary states.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I imagine the Democratic Party will rethink caucuses for future primaries.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)We had quite a few of those in our group. I found out about this in a mailing I got from Bill Clinton. It was also on the WA voters website, on their caucus page.
LisaM
(27,806 posts)I know a lot of people who dreaded bring around the bros. Everyone I know who was for Hillary was was dreading going and that includes men. It's intimidation.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)nygurl
(33 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Pacific Islanders are POC? Or do the Berners mean people with suntans?
Cha
(297,190 posts)in action.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Barf and thumbsdown to bad doggies.