Interesting thing I noticed about the recent "Massive" wins ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

I realize caucuses are what there are; but, it strains credulity to compare a massive (caucus) win in, say ... WA to the, equally, massive (primary) win in, say ... MS.

We have more Democrats in the decidedly republican township in which I live, than even participated in the recent caucuses.

{ETA: I posted this here because I don't feel like arguing.}

[johnp3907]

1. Well sure, but...

The bird! Don't forget the bird!

[rock]

4. And the bern!

I believe it's a sidebern.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Yes, I am still celebrating a five state sweep where there was more participation and delegates

gained, I am building her momentum and what is more exciting is the upcoming primaries are in Hillary's favor, we will fight to the finish. Hillary only needs 650 delegates, Sanders needs almost twice as much and opportunities are becoming less with every primary.

[seabeyond]

3. Point... Looking at the caucus's and Republican, Libertarian and teabagger vote for Dem. Nt

[DemonGoddess]

5. K&R!

[Surya Gayatri]

6. K&R Know what ya mean about endless Bernsplanin'! LOL!

[nolabear]

21. ...

[KT2000]

7. delegates and electoral college n/t

[Gothmog]

8. You posted this thread in the right forum

You will not get any arguments over here

[CalvinballPro]

9. I have more people in my one NJ county than all of Vermont. #perspective (nt)

[LisaM]

13. Someone recently pointed out that Ann Arbor, Michigan

had more African-Americans than the entire state of Vermont. And the population of Phoenix is about double that of Alaska.

[Her Sister]

14. population density

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density

[Setsuna1972]

10. fairfax vs Vermont

The northern Virginia city of Fairfax probably has more people than the entire state of Vermont, plus its much more diverse in every single way !

This past weekend was basically the final hurrah for Bernie,NY and pA will wrap it up for Hillary .

[Tarheel_Dem]

11. And what about homebound people? Do they get to participate in any way? Older people may not...

be prepared or even able to sit through hours of heated debate, or shouting matches with children who are all hyped up on Red Bull. This is where I have to agree with (dare I say) Chris Matthews, I wonder about the constitutionality of the caucus system. I read a few weeks ago that in some jurisdictions there is no way to participate by absentee.

[LisaM]

16. In many jurisdictions you can't participate by absentee or affidavit

It's a really, really awful system. And many Hillary supporters I know in Washington (some who probably still have fresh memories of 2008, which was unpleasant), just flat out didn't want to go and be lectured and bullied by young men in their 20s. That is called intimidation, my friends, and the Washington state Dems need to do something about it.

[Tarheel_Dem]

17. I didn't see it in '08, maybe because I didn't want to, but I can see how that system can be....

disenfranchising for many demographics who don't favor the flavor of the month whims of the younger crowd. Consider me a convert. There should be options if you don't care to sit for hours in the company of hostile hormone fueled young men, who wouldn't know the meaning of respect if it walked up and slapped in the face.

[LisaM]

18. I supported Hillary in 2008, and the caucus was unpleasant.

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Partly crowds that were too large for the space we were in and people unfamiliar with the process, partly because the crowd was overwhelmingly for Obama. I knew it would be, I'm near a lot of students, but mostly I felt that I had absolutely no voice. The few people attempting to speak for Hillary were shouted down (I heard other reports of this too), people were angry that they couldn't just vote and leave, only one person speaking for Obama actually spoke to an issue, and two women from my neighborhood (I could never look at them the same after that) going on and on about their families in Alabama and North Carolina disliking Bill Clinton. It was awful and I would never care to repeat it. I think many people did remember, and knew that 2016 would be 2008 on steroids and just avoided the situation entirely. Plus being a holiday weekend when people are out of town ......ugh.

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. Party rules are not bound by the Constitution.

[Cha]

26. Mahalo for pointing that out, Tarheel!

[anotherproletariat]

12. Did you see the total vote counts?

In Washington, if I recall correctly, there were about 30,000 total votes. That's an extremely small portion of the electorate in a state of over 7 million!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

15. That's the total number of delegates picked Saturday

They'll go on to their legislative district caucus where delegates to the state convention will be picked. That number should total the 101 that will go to the candidates.

That said there was an odd way of picking delegates. There are 5 delegates in my precinct. 28 people showed up. 18 were for Sanders, 10 for Hillary Clinton.

Mathematically that would be 3.2 delegates for Sanders 1.8 for Clinton but weird how they round it off. Instead of 3 to 2 they went 4 to 1.

They figure each candidate gets their whole numbers and the one who has the most votes gets the one that was split.

Can you imagine the outcry from Sanders people if the votes were reverse for their candidate?

[LisaM]

19. That number was so misleading! I misquoted it too.

Their math to assign delegates is somewhat disenfranchising. However, 28 people in a precinct is still a poor showing. The first one I went to had 9 people and it was quite civil, but it's undergone a sea change since then.

[DrCyCoe]

28. Is that an actual written rule?

The way they split those numbers up? Going from 60/40 to 80/20 is huge.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

32. It's what was in the packet given us

[Hekate]

20. KnR

[UtahLib]

22. K&R. nt

[fleabiscuit]

23. I've been thinking about the very same thing. K&R

[Cha]

25. I like the win in Mississippi! More Diverse voting than BSrs in a caucus

Post here anytime, 1StrongBlackMan

[KitSileya]

29. Don't you know that Mississippi isn't diverse?!

African Americans don't count when when we're talking diverse. Only Hawaii, Washington, and Alaska are diverse.

[Cha]

31. Haha! They have no idea what they're talking about.

[lunamagica]

27. K&R.

[obamanut2012]

30. My county has almost four times more people than all of Vermont

And, is very blue and very diverse.