Why Hillary Clinton is justifiably annoyed by criticism of her Big Oil fundraising

[BlueMTexpat]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/01/why-hillary-clinton-is-justifiably-annoyed-by-critiques-of-her-big-oil-fundraising/

This article has some excellent graphs. Once again, Bernie's campaign is being disingenuous - at best.

The Center for Responsive Politics compiles data on the money given to candidates by industry, and Clinton and the PACs supporting her have raised more from that industry than has Sanders. Both totals, though, are far less than has been given to Republicans -- especially Republicans from the oil-rich states of Texas and Louisiana.

But note: Both Democrats have received money from "the oil and gas industry." The total for Clinton's campaign is about $308,000; for Sanders's, it's about $54,000. As Clinton noted in the moment, the Center for Responsive Politics mostly aggregates contributions by employer. If a guy who runs the commissary at Chevron in California gives $27 to Bernie Sanders, that's counted as "oil and gas industry" money.

As a percentage of all the money campaigns have raised, both Clinton and Sanders have only raised a fraction of their totals from that industry.

The article notes that while Greenpeace's understanding of money, oil and the presidential race is simplistic, a narrower focus on fundraising from oil industry lobbyists would be more difficult to shake off. However, it does not provide a similar analysis of how much of Bernie's fundraising has come from oil industry lobbyists. IMO, it should have before deciding to end on that note.

[Her Sister]

1. I heard Weaver on CNN on this topic

Newscast woman (Acosta?) said it was just oil industry employees giving money to HRC's campaign but get this.... music....tah tah tah...

also to BS' campaign!!!

[liberal N proud]

2. BS want's his BSers to believe the bs about campaign financing

He was going to run for President only on small donations.

He had a pipe dream, just didn't want anyone to know about some of the pipes.

[George II]

3. The simple fact is that it's FALSE! One of these days those critical of who contributes....

....to the Clinton campaign will take some time and study how the campaign finance laws work. Then maybe they'd stop these inane and fall accusations.

On the other hand, we really don't know who contributes to Sanders' campaign - he still has tens of millions of contributions that are "unitemized", meaning they haven't even reported to the FEC where they came from, what the contributors' occupations are, or what industry they work for.

I doubt the Clinton campaign has gotten letters with 100+ pages of "impermissible" (i.e, illegal!) contributions that they now, months after the fact, they have to explain.

[kennetha]

4. Sanders is engaging in cheap and sleazy demagoguery

on Clinton's corporate contributions. Unfortunately, his supporters are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.

[NurseJackie]

30. Sad, isn't it? nt

[GvilleDem]

5. Help find the source.

In tracing this lie back I have a few questions I hope someone can help me answer.
Bernie's website actually talks about this claim, and backs it. It states that Hillary has received over 4.5 million from the Oil industries, and it refers to the Green Party site as a source. Green party doesn't source all their numbers, wether intentional or accidental, one source is their own website. That is the 1.2 million plus they claim was donated directly to her. That is unsourced information.

Now it also claims another 3.5 million was donated to her superpac. I looked at the superpac in the 2015-2016 cycle, and didn't see anything, but it could be an insane series of $20 donations totaling 3.5 million. That seems fishy, but they do cite another source, which is energy desk, a part of green peace. Thats where the trail ends. I'll post a link.

http://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2016/03/03/us-election-who-are-the-most-fossil-fuel-funded-presidential-candidates/

I just want to know, where did they come up with this figure?
What I assume is it was contributions from last year, but I can't really find a source, or anything besides numbers green party posts.
Information would be welcome, thanks

[sweetloukillbot]

9. I think some is conflating the Clinton Foundation w/ her presidential campaign

It also might be taking into consideration donations back to 2000.

[BlueMTexpat]

12. sweetlou's answer about

the Clinton Foundation is indeed the biggest source of the disconnect between what Bernie claims and what is true.

The Greens and Greenpeace are using some sloppy accounting. Anything with the name "Clinton," regardless of whether it is the Foundation - which has zilch to do with the presidential race - or the Clinton Senate campaigns or the Clinton presidential campaign seems to have been caught in their very broad net.

[dochi]

16. tell me about it

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-global-burning-record.html

[BlueMTexpat]

20. Nasty piece that.

But it's run of the mill for Eric Zuesse, who hates Hillary Clinton even more than he seems to hate the GOP.

[SharonClark]

26. It's a newby caught in the anti-Hillary web!!

Bye Bye

[SharonClark]

25. Agree

[dochi]

13. half of it

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel_us_55a8335ee4b04740a3df86c5

What NO ONE wants to mention is all the millions of dollars invested in Pro-Clinton super pacs by the fossil fuel industry.

[BlueMTexpat]

21. I can guess that you are

a Sanders supporter who hates Hillary Clinton.

You are NOT welcome here. Your miasma can follow you through DU everywhere else. Stay away from this Group.

[fleabiscuit]

24. Hammer time captain! eom

[CalvinballPro]

6. THIS

If a guy who runs the commissary at Chevron in California gives $27 to Bernie Sanders, that's counted as "oil and gas industry" money.

This is what I've been waiting for the media to start pointing out. If I give a donation big enough, it gets listed under my employer, even though my company is not funding any candidates. Why is that? I just want the media to report the truth about why this happens, because there's too much easy ignorance on this topic.

[sweetloukillbot]

8. Exactly - My wife works for a broker dealer

So our donation is technically "Wall Street Money".

[CalvinballPro]

11. I work in America for a Swedish paper company, does that make my donation "foreign" then?

Of course the standard must be whatever looks worst for Clinton and best for Sanders. Gotta keep the Bernie Sanders Double Standard operating in full effect, after all.

[BlueMTexpat]

14. Spot on! eom

[SunSeeker]

7. K & R

[Hekate]

10. My comment in LBN....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1399483

GOOD FOR HILLARY. I appreciate how careful she was with that finger, too.
You could get your eye poked out when Bernie's agitated -- which is nearly all the time.

Which brings me to this: Double standard for women when it comes to showing temper. He's "passionate." She's "berserk."

JURY: This is my personal opinion and personal observation on a Democratic board of the ongoing Democratic campaign by our two Democratic candidates. Opposition to one or the other is permitted. As with all other Hillary supporters at this site, I have stated on numerous occasions that I will support whoever becomes the Democratic candidate in the General Election.

[mcar]

15. Ooh but she's an angry woman!!11

That just isn't right or something.

[BlueMTexpat]

17. Years and years of being called everything nasty under the sun

and she reacts once and is pilloried for it?

That's just once too much for an intelligent woman candidate for President who far outshines ALL men candidates in 2016.

Any woman who STILL does not "get" what's happening here really, really needs her head examined.

[mcar]

23. Any woman who doesn't get it

Hasn't been paying attention.

[dochi]

18. Selective quotes there.

Yes Hillary is all about protecting the environment! LOL http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-global-burning-record.html

[johnp3907]

19. This is a group for Hillary Clinton supporters.

You can self-delete.

[BlueMTexpat]

22. Eric Zuesse again!

Begone creature from under the bridge!

[fleabiscuit]

27. nom nom nom

https://twitter.com/albamonica/status/715676549673009152

https://www.reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/comments/4ct0rg/clinton_spox_nickmerrills_statement_on_oil_and/t1_d1ld2v0

[BlueMTexpat]

28. Thanks, fleabiscuit! eom

[fleabiscuit]

29. You’re welcome.

BTW, “dochi” reminded me to look through the list of “First Posts” on DU.

Anyone else look through those. There are many a lesson in CRAZY in those. Sheesh.