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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 12:48 PM Sep 2013

Expectations Surpassed as Over 1000 Communes Registered in Venezuela

By Ewan Robertson

Source: Venezuelanalysis.com

Wednesday, September 11, 2013


Estimations of the number of communes in Venezuela have been surpassed, as 1,150 communes registered in a national census last weekend.


President Nicolas Maduro lauded the census as a “tremendous event” through his twitter account. “Fascism is defeated with work and the concrete advances of grassroots power, everyone to concentrate forces on the communes now!” he wrote yesterday.

Community councils in Venezuela are grassroots bodies where local residents manage public funds and undertake projects promoting community development. Communes, meanwhile, are formed by groups of community councils, and can take on larger scale projects and public works.

The director of information and technology systems for the Ministry of Communes, Feijoo Jimenez, explained to ALBA Ciudad radio last Friday that the government is pushing the formation of communes as a means for communities to “administer their own resources, projects and activities”.


Full Article: http://www.zcommunications.org/expectations-surpassed-as-over-1000-communes-registered-in-venezuela-by-ewan-robertson.html
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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. I wish Venezuela well in their ongoing socialist quest
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:04 PM
Sep 2013

for independence, liberty and justice for their people.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
2. Fantastic. It needs to be mentioned again & again, this is a movement,
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:14 PM
Sep 2013

and it started well before Hugo Chavez EVER ran for office.

The oligarchs will do everything possible to deny this simple and colossal fact, the movement to transform the society started at ground level, with the CITIZENS, not the parasites at the top who always wormed their way to power over the "pure of heart" population.

The criminals seized power and arranged things so their narrow racist elite managed affairs of state to benefit only themselves and their small peer population. Good people don't scheme and plot against others.

It's a true "grassroots" expression, and intention, coming from need created by a filthy, violent, murderous rule by the people who still adore the memory of Carlos Andres Perez, who ordered his military to fire directly into crowds of protesting poor people after he raised the price of their cost of living far beyond their ability to pay. Pure filth. Racist, classist scum. Everyone knows it.

Thank you for this info. What a great energizer, Polly7.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
3. it needs to be mentioned again and again Hugo's Venezuela is the most violent, corrupt,
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 01:49 PM
Sep 2013

and poorly managed country in latin South America. Where the boligarch elite manage the affairs of state for their own benefit, shortages are the norm, power outages are frequent, infrastructure is in disrepair, and inflation is sky high. No other country wants or accepts Bolivars, even the ostensible Friends of Hugo countries. Venezuelans need to get permission and receive an allowance in order to travel. Foreign travelers don't venture there.

None of this was the case pre-Chavez with the exception of corruption that has only worsened under Hugo and his idiot succesor.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
7. It is a chavista response, stupid and incoherent
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:34 PM
Sep 2013

Just like a chavista, you can't defend the decay of Venezuela under Hugo and Manuro. All of those problems I cited in Venezuela from the Chavez and Maduro governements are factual so you obviously can't refute them. And I forgot to mention the deplorable prison system and complete lack of a functioning judiciary system.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
8. Please try to refrain from posting such childish responses. All they do is hurt your credibility n/t
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 11:55 PM
Sep 2013

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
9. You OK Bacchus4.0?
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 12:31 AM
Sep 2013

You've been increasingly bitter lately. Let me know if anything happened to change it up. Venezuela is definitely one of the most corrupt Latin American countries and its murder rate is still at the top of the lists.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. Yvw Judi Lynn.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 02:06 PM
Sep 2013

Thank you for all of the added information you provide. I admire the people of Venezuela so much ... they've been part of the revolution from the start and seem determined to see it through, no matter what!

Socialistlemur

(770 posts)
10. On the other hand PSUV candidates are designated at the top
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:51 AM
Sep 2013

It's very interesting to see how they try to foist the communes as a grounds up movement. The communes and communal councils are not considered in the Venezuelan Constitution, they are an invention which was introduced when the ruling clique realized they were losing popularity amongst the masses.

Given recent poll results, it's evident Maduro is following a foreign script to try to set up a command and control system. The communal councils, distribution of weapons to Bolivarian militias and the so called communes are just an atempt to bypass and weaken the constitutionally mandated order. Why are they doing this? Because they risk a huge defeat in the forthcoming elections for municipal authorities. They have the ability to use state funds for propaganda, but they lack the huge amount of cash used last year to buy votes. And the 40% inflation, crime rate and corruption levels are really hurting the PSUV popularity.

Because the PSUV has evolved as a conglomerate of mafias, corrupt officials and a few committed communists, their local candidates tend to be the ones who can offer the most real cash and corruption links to the local mafias. This means the center had to move in and designate the local candidates for everything. The move from the top has caused a lot of resentment (never mind the talk against the corruption which was implanted by Chavez within the PSUV). This has resulted in a breach between Maduro/center which is clearly mentored by Cubans and the wild crowd at the local levels. The commune move is just an atempt to enlist people who can bypass the established PSUV corruption networks.

But the problem they face is enormous because the same local mafias Chavez nourished, armed and sustained by allowing so much corruption understand they don't have a future if all they have is a job as a low level aparatchik in a Cuban style set up. That system is a Neo fascist system where only the ones at the very top live very well, and the population has to eat the garbage they leave behind.

The idea that Maduro is going to direct a communist society is sheer lies. If you notice they are making deals with multinationals in the oil sector (see the note about the ChevronTexaco deal). They are headed towards a fascist dictatorship, same as Cuba. This is the endpoint of most communist systems which go the Stalinist route and eventually entrench a party upper class very interested in holding power forever. Like Jaua said recently, "you can complain about things but you can't be against the revolution". Code words for "we, your rulers, will let you whine a bit, but WE WILL ALWAYS BE IN POWER"..

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