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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 02:04 PM Apr 2014

Venezuela probes 97 security troops for torture

http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-probes-97-security-troops-torture-220448854.html



Caracas (AFP) - Venezuela is investigating nearly 100 armed forces and police staff for alleged torture during more than two months of ongoing deadly anti-government protests, authorities said Sunday.

The military's strategic command chief Vladimir Padrino admitted that security forces had committed "excesses" in recent days.

"We are able to say that 97 are being investigated by prosecutors for cruelty, for torture," he told Venevision television.

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President Nicolas Maduro's leftist elected government, with its heavily state-led economy, has blamed the United States, Colombian conservatives and Venezuelan "fascists" for the toughest opposition actions it has faced.

Nearly daily protests began in early February against rampant street crime, soaring inflation, poor job prospects and shortages of such essential goods as milk and toilet paper.

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Venezuela probes 97 security troops for torture (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Apr 2014 OP
Looks like the government is backtracking. MADem Apr 2014 #1
That's right. Castro did it. Mika Apr 2014 #10
If you don't think Raul is sweating bullets trying to prop up Maduro, you know nothing. MADem Apr 2014 #13
Torture? Gawd damn them!! RobertEarl Apr 2014 #2
I think you missed the title of this forum: this is the LATIN AMERICA forum Marksman_91 Apr 2014 #3
The torture by this government goes back so much farther than most US'ians know. Judi Lynn Apr 2014 #4
Why is it that you keep refering to events that happened 40-50 years ago? IronGate Apr 2014 #6
It's very simple Zorro Apr 2014 #7
Reading her posts has led me to that conclusion. IronGate Apr 2014 #8
You're repeating GOP memes again? Mika Apr 2014 #11
yep, since there is absolutely no other reason to be a chavista Bacchus4.0 May 2014 #15
Because it's easier to say "Look over there" than answer the charges of GNB abuse/violence. MADem Apr 2014 #14
"no one likes a dictator (...) who shoots and kills students in the street Bacchus4.0 May 2014 #16
The GNB is getting "some extra special sauce" courtesy of tacticians on loan from Raul. MADem May 2014 #17
yep, been hearing that about the Cubans being placed among the national guard n/t Bacchus4.0 May 2014 #18
And this has what to do with the title of the thread? IronGate Apr 2014 #5
yep, abuses by the Venezuela security forces and government is the topic n/t Bacchus4.0 Apr 2014 #9
Evidently, you don't hang around this forum much. Mika Apr 2014 #12

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Looks like the government is backtracking.
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:29 AM
Apr 2014

Gee, if it's all "America's fault" then why would they investigate their own people? Wonder how many of those abusive GNB members have Cuban accents?

I guess they're afraid. They should be--they're dead wrong, and the government AND the military are corrupt as hell.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
10. That's right. Castro did it.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:03 PM
Apr 2014


Thank you for never failing to provide some humor in this forum.




MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. If you don't think Raul is sweating bullets trying to prop up Maduro, you know nothing.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:27 PM
Apr 2014

His regime is absolutely dependent on free oil from VZ. Without it, he's Castro-ated.



They're all just imagining things, this is a case of pure delusion, isn't it funny, how all these people have the same idea...yeah, that's the ticket!!


indeed...keep whistling in the dark!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
2. Torture? Gawd damn them!!
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:29 PM
Apr 2014

Meanwhile, back in the US, the senate is holding back on the report of our CIA torturing People. Damn them all!!

When is bush going to jail? Any idea, Bac?

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
3. I think you missed the title of this forum: this is the LATIN AMERICA forum
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 11:09 PM
Apr 2014

If you wish to talk about US affairs, take them somewhere else

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
4. The torture by this government goes back so much farther than most US'ians know.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 11:39 PM
Apr 2014

Really creepy seeing information bits surfacing as they get illuminated through F.O.I.A. as time allows, isn't it?

How about the police chief of Gary, Indiana, who had his torture equipment brought to him in diplomatic pouches in Uruguay and in Brazil during Richard Nixon's reign of terror and criminality, Dan Mitrione, who went to work for the CIA during Dwight Eisenhower.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
6. Why is it that you keep refering to events that happened 40-50 years ago?
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:41 PM
Apr 2014

Why not comment on the current thread instead of trying to divert and deflect?

This is actually good for the Maduro govt, they're willing to investigate criminal acts done by govt. agents.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
15. yep, since there is absolutely no other reason to be a chavista
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:14 AM
May 2014

given their miserably corrupt oppressive adminstration, and when there are much better examples of effective left leaning governments in Chile, Brazil, and Peru.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Because it's easier to say "Look over there" than answer the charges of GNB abuse/violence.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:54 PM
Apr 2014

There is no defense for what the GNB is doing to the protesters. They're killing VZ citizens, and Cubans are helping the GNB do it.



This 'probe' is pure lip service by Maduro. He's trying to mollify his neighbors, some of whom are starting to give him the stink-eye, and he's just trying to hang on to power. If I were him, I'd worry less about his right flank (which is still disorganized and fragmented, the only thing they agree on is that they don't like the present situation); I'd worry far more about his 'friends' on the left.

Even other nations in the region are starting to put some distance between them and Maduro--no one likes a dictator (cough...a "Democratically elected leader with absolute power of decree&quot who shoots and kills students in the street.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
16. "no one likes a dictator (...) who shoots and kills students in the street
Sun May 4, 2014, 10:13 AM
May 2014

And the Ven government repression has the full support and participation of Cuba.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. The GNB is getting "some extra special sauce" courtesy of tacticians on loan from Raul.
Sun May 4, 2014, 12:46 PM
May 2014

Those are Cuban accents giving the orders to fire.

Gotta wonder what's up wit' that!!!

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
5. And this has what to do with the title of the thread?
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:37 PM
Apr 2014

Why are you trying to jack the thread?

This is about the abusive tactics of some Venezuelan govt agents, not about the US Senate, nor the CIA.
Try to stick to the topic at hand if you would.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
12. Evidently, you don't hang around this forum much.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 04:08 PM
Apr 2014

Sticking to the topic is really not done in the way you want it. Others here, both pro and con - on just about any LatAm topic, provide context and background.

Stick around and you'll routinely find out that Castro is behind all of it.



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