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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:14 PM Apr 2016

Rousseff brands vice president Temer “a traitor” and ''coup plotter'' with no respect for democracy

http://en.mercopress.com/2016/04/13/rousseff-brands-vice-president-temer-a-traitor-and-coup-plotter-with-no-respect-for-democracy

Referring to the leak Monday of a recording in which her vice president, Michel Temer, practices the speech he would make if Rousseff is impeached, the president said: “The mask of the conspirators has fallen.”

“We are living in strange and worrying times, times of a coup and pretending and treachery,” she said. “Yesterday they used the pretense of a leak to give the order for the conspiracy.”

“Yesterday it became clear that there are two leaders of the coup who work together in a premeditated way,” she said, without naming names, although the context clearly referred to Temer and the speaker of the lower house, Eduardo Cunha.

“They are coup plotters, without respect for democracy,” she said.
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Rousseff brands vice president Temer “a traitor” and ''coup plotter'' with no respect for democracy (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Apr 2016 OP
She blames the CIA in 10... 9... 8.... 7... nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #1
You've been saying she'll blame CIA... OBenario Apr 2016 #2
Give her time. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #3
5 years weren't enough for you to get over your bad faith towards all progressive leaders. OBenario Apr 2016 #4
Calling Dilma's abysmal record in Brazil "my bad faith" COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #5
Trying to attack her as a "anti-american wacko" saying that she'll blame CIA as you do every week... OBenario Apr 2016 #6
You're confusing me with somebody else- I rarely if ever (before COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #7
Really? OBenario Apr 2016 #8
I'll be sure to do that COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #9
I know you won't. OBenario Apr 2016 #10
 

OBenario

(604 posts)
2. You've been saying she'll blame CIA...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

... since she started her term as president of Brazil. But she never did such a thing.

Why do you insist in satanizing all leftist leaders?

 

OBenario

(604 posts)
4. 5 years weren't enough for you to get over your bad faith towards all progressive leaders.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

I see.

Great "progressives" in US we see these days...

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
5. Calling Dilma's abysmal record in Brazil "my bad faith"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

is the height of hypocrisy. Being progressive doesn't mean that you have to support incompetents.

 

OBenario

(604 posts)
6. Trying to attack her as a "anti-american wacko" saying that she'll blame CIA as you do every week...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:58 PM
Apr 2016

... is what makes your bad faith towards her crystal clear.

You may not like her government, but incompetence is not a reason for impeachment or inventing stories about blaming CIA out of nowhere.

If incompetence was a reason for impeachment, I believe no American president would have finished his term.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
7. You're confusing me with somebody else- I rarely if ever (before
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

this post) commented on Dilma. But whether her government is incompetent is immaterial to me. It is not however immaterial to millions of your compatriots who want to see her out (and, please no tel"Right Wing Fascist Golpistas" response). Time will tell if she (and Lula) survive politically.

 

OBenario

(604 posts)
8. Really?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

Funny, because I've seen several posts of yours accusing her, without any reason, of being someone who victimizes herself and blames everything on CIA. When in fact she never even criticized the US government for anything - except when her government was spied - and that's one of the reasons why progressive sectors of Brazil labeled her as a neoliberal. But, for some reason, you continue stereotyping her as a if she was a Brazilian Fidel Castro or something, when in fact her rhetoric has always been quite friendly towards the US.

Some examples:

1 - "That's because the CIA is controlling the polling"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110844474#post1


You also made linked Dilma to a supposed CIA paranoia (which you're the only one who sees, since Dilma has never even pronounced the expression "CIA" during her entire government, much less blamed the US for anything - except spying, which is, of course, more than justified).

2 - "Looks like the CIA is going to have to be hiring. Soon - they can't keep up with the workload of destabilizing Venezuela and now Brazil's economy, even with Alvaro Uribe's help. (just in case"


Here, another ironic comment as an answer to another poster's stereotyped statement about "sheblamesCIAforeverything"

3 - "Nah, obviously they're a minority of right-wingers paid by the CIA to protest against Rousseff"
- "...or tools of the Brazilian Oligarchy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1108&pid=38551

You do the same here, again as an answer to another poster's comment:

4 - "$20 says DUers will be referring to "the CIA-backed coup in Brazil" in a year"
- In a year? Hell, I expect it within a month or two.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141397276#post2


Here, you are stereotyping her as a chavista

5 - "She, Cristina and Maduro can form a club..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110846194

I don't know what this is, if ignorance or bad faith. Anyway, you should work on that.

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