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GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 03:04 PM Dec 2018

Chavismo promises pernil (ham legs) in order to get out the vote. The outcome. And the threats

Vice Minister of Food throws Venezuelans under the bus




Translation: Miserable! The "Deputy Minister of Food" speaks ... and he confesses that they play with the hunger of the people: "Leave the song that people are moving around protesting the legs". "That's going to happen." "December is ending". "It was a risky strategy, but necessary"

And what the General said, in its entirety

"Comrades, I am going to talk to you once and for all, leave the question that if people go around complaining about the legs, and they do not pick up, send messages like Gloria and Miguel, you are responsible for the ministry of food. They can not be scared by protests What people are up to? That is going to happen to them, December is ending, and by the end of the year people are forgetting everything. Comrade President Nicolas Maduro announced the delivery of the pork because it was necessary. We had to get people to vote. it was a risky but necessary strategy. So calm down, or let me know and give me the charge. What has arrived has been distributed efficiently, I believe! To all the heads of key units More can not be done! Are they going to get up? Ah good! Imagine that, then. We already know that the leg is not going to arrive as people believe. Take the appropriate measures. Support yourself in the Bolivarian National Guard, and I urge you to behave at the height of your position!"


So, the cunning and subtle plan is to ignore the promises made to the starving public and hopefully, El Pueblo will forget about it soon enough. And if they don't, strong arm them with the Bolivarian (not Venezuelan) National Guard, Maduro's own Praetorian thugs.
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Chavismo promises pernil (ham legs) in order to get out the vote. The outcome. And the threats (Original Post) GatoGordo Dec 2018 OP
The Bolivarian National Guard IS the Venezuelan National Guard. arthurgoodwin Dec 2018 #1
I know all about Venezuela. I know who Bolivar was. My family is Venezuelan GatoGordo Dec 2018 #2
Bolivian vs Bolivarian arthurgoodwin Dec 2018 #3
??? GatoGordo Dec 2018 #4

arthurgoodwin

(38 posts)
1. The Bolivarian National Guard IS the Venezuelan National Guard.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 05:23 PM
Dec 2018

The reference in post above to: "...strong arm them with the Bolivarian (not Venezuelan) National Guard, Maduro's own Praetorian thugs." is incorrect. Venezuela is the "Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela" and the "Bolivarian National Guard" is the national guard of Venezuela, not some import from Bolivia.

Bolivar, the great South American independence leader was important in the formation of several South American countries, and this is shown in Venezuela's case, by the incorporation of a reference to his name in the countries official name.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
2. I know all about Venezuela. I know who Bolivar was. My family is Venezuelan
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:11 AM
Dec 2018

Until Chavez, the National Guard WAS a Venezuelan institution. The point being, they don't serve Venezuela any longer. Their mandate is to to protect Bolivarian Socialism (the Revolution) from "the enemy", not Venezuelans. Which is why you don't see the word VENEZUELA in any number of Chavist security agencies.

FANB -Fuerza Armada Nacional Bolivariana (Armed Forces)
GNB -Guardia Nacional Bolivariana (National Guard)
PNB -Policía Nacional Bolivariana (National Police)
SEBIN -Servicio Bolivariano de Inteligencia Nacional (Secret Police)

Notice the lack of the world VENEZUELA in any of the titles of these "security agencies"? That is because Chavismo doesn't give the least shit about Venezuela. What is important is the Revolution.

arthurgoodwin

(38 posts)
3. Bolivian vs Bolivarian
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 06:34 AM
Dec 2018

I mostly agree with you about the current regime in Venezuela.

My previous post was merely to take issue with how you had incorrectly conflated the terms "Bolivian" and "Bolivarian".

"Bolivian" refers to the country of Bolivia, whereas "Bolivarian" in the context of your post refers to the current government in Venezuela. So, when you referred to the Bolivarian National Guard (of Venezuela) as "a Praetorian Guard of Bolivian thugs," you slandered true Bolivians (including friends I have there).

Or are you saying that you have evidence that the Bolivarian National Guard (of Venezuela) is a mercenary force recruited from Bolivia? If so, please provide the proof you have to back up your claim of "Bolivian thugs".

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
4. ???
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 09:11 AM
Dec 2018

Bolivia? Bolivian???

Where? Every mention I made was Bolivarian, not Bolivian.

Under Chavismo, the mandate for its security forces is to protect Bolivarian Socialism from its enemies. Not Venezuela from its enemies. As a matter of fact, SEBIN is directed by none other than Chavismo's #2, the Marxist/Leninist Delcy Rodriguez. Her speeches alone are proof of where her loyalties lie. Venezuelans can rot in Hell for all she cares. What matters is her precious revolution.

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