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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 10:52 AM Jan 2012

Obama: We can manage tensions with Venezuela


http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/120126/obama-we-can-manage-tensions-with-venezuela

EL UNIVERSAL
Thursday January 26, 2012 04:41 PM

US President Barack Obama said that his quest for a diplomatic strategy in Latin America based on the promotion of democratic values will create difficulties with Venezuela. "We can manage these tensions," he said.

Obama declined to elaborate on his role in the decision to expel Venezuelan consul to Miami Livia Acosta. However, he said that "there were investigations and follow-up of the case."

"I wish to improve relations with Venezuela. Unfortunately, the Venezuelan government tends to use the United States as an excuse for the failure of some of its domestic policies, and to cause problems to some of its neighbors," the US President said in an interview with Hispanic TV network Univision broadcast on Thursday, as reported by AP.

"We will continue seeking a diplomatic strategy in Latin America based on the defense of the values that we consider important: democracy, respect for human rights, respect for freedom of expression; we need to ensure that no country interfere with the legitimate complains of its neighbors," he said. "I want to tell you that this is going to create some tensions with Venezuela, but we can manage these tensions."
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Obama: We can manage tensions with Venezuela (Original Post) Bacchus4.0 Jan 2012 OP
So... ocpagu Jan 2012 #1
You'll recall that Obama had extremely good relations with Venezuela until Wikileaks. joshcryer Jan 2012 #2
"We will continue seeking a diplomatic strategy" as opposed to what? Peace Patriot Jan 2012 #3
 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
1. So...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jan 2012

he intends to "ensure that no country interfere with the legitimate complains of its neighbors" by interfering with the legitimate complains of other countries?

Yep, makes sense.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
2. You'll recall that Obama had extremely good relations with Venezuela until Wikileaks.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 08:50 AM
Jan 2012


It wasn't until Wikileaks insults were made known and Chavez ousted the ambassador that things fell apart. Not, by any means, chastising Wikileaks cables, or Manning, if anything I am pointing out how Chavez takes things so personally he cuts off all diplomatic relations over trivialities.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
3. "We will continue seeking a diplomatic strategy" as opposed to what?
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jan 2012

Obama's remarks reinforce my analysis of Bushwhack (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Miami mafia) vs Obama (Panetta, Clinton and, I think, Bush Sr) strategies for reconquest of LatAm for transglobal corporations and war profiteers. The former were planning Oil War II (still on the books); the latter prefer democracy cosmetics smeered over corporate rule without the use of obvious force (rightwing death squads okay, U.S. military direct involvement in killing trade unionists, etc., not okay; cover ups of Bush Junta crimes in that regard).

The former is the war-first strategy of the Bushwhacks; the latter is the threats, bullying, economic warfare and free use of local fascist operatives strategy of the Clintons and the CIA.

What are the "other" options that Obama is considering, as opposed to "a diplomatic strategy" in Latin America? I think it's pretty obvious that one of them is that plan still on the Pentagon's Big Dartboard for violently folding Venezuela's oil (biggest oil reserve on earth) into the U.S. "circle of the wagons" region of Central America/the Caribbean. BOTH strategies have run into the snag that Brazil will oppose, and is opposing, them. I think that one purpose of the Honduran coup--in my opinion, a Bush Junta-designed coup (to which Obama/Clinton responded very badly)--was to cut off Obama's option of "a diplomatic strategy" for reconquering Latin America and favor the Bushwhack/Miami mafia's war plan (which they voiced even before the Diebold Congress was seated), that is, outright war on Venezuela, Nicaragua and other leftist countries.

Why? Well, because they are leftist, with Venezuela in particular as the pioneer of the historic social justice/independence movement that has swept most of South America and parts of Central America. This is unacceptable to transglobal corporations and war profiteers, whom our leaders serve.

The State Dept./Obama line about 'democracy' is truly outrageously hypocritical, lying bullshit. The State Dept. rigged the elections in both Honduras and Haiti, to PREVENT the hugely popular Aristide and his party from sweeping the elections in Haiti, and to END the democratic presidency of Mel Zelaya in Honduras by a U.S.-supported, rightwing/military coup d'etat. NOWHERE do our corporate rulers favor real democracy, least of all here. And, sad though it is (though predictable) Obama serves THEM.

And, by contrast, Venezuelan democracy has never been better--never more open, never more empowering to ordinary people, never more lively as a political forum and never more representative of the poor majority, and THEY have clean, transparent elections. WE don't!

When Bushwhacks talked about 'democracy,' bats and spiders flew out of their mouths. It was easy to interpret those flying foul things. You look at Obama--poor black man made good--and you hate to believe that he is telling the same lies, and he certainly makes a better "sell" of such assertions, but he, too, is lying--or if part of him isn't lying, that's the part that has no power over the transglobal corporations and war profiteers who are running things. They DON'T WANT democracy here, or in Latin America or anywhere else. Some of them want cosmetic, fictional 'democracies.' Some of them just want fascist dictators and their rich elites running countries in their interest and smashing the poor. The latter have Bushwhacks as their operatives in Washington. The former have Democrats.

Loyal Democrat here for 50 years! So I get to say this. Though I adamantly support voting and participation, I know that our system is highly rigged and that our leaders are handpicked by those who truly rule over this. The solution to this is NOT to stick your head in the sand but to actively address critical problems such as the corporate-run 'TRADE SECRET' voting systems all over the U.S.

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