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MRubio

(285 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:46 PM Mar 2019

Why a Coup Is Unlikely in Venezuela

By KEN SILVERSTEIN
March 5, 2019

The Trump administration clearly wants one. But the people don't, and neither the military nor neighboring countries are interested in making one happen.

There’s no question that brutal U.S. economic sanctions, in addition to Maduro’s own corrupt and repressive policies, have created a lot of misery and discontent. People are tired and believe, understandably, that the United States will continue to starve the country—and them—until Maduro is gone.

Last week, brought to Caracas by the International Peoples’ Assembly, an anti-interventionist Latin American group holding a conference, I wandered away from the official events to walk through the impoverished barrios. “I want a coup,” said one young woman I spoke to, who works in the hospitality industry. “I am fed up.” She was the only person I met who openly supported a coup, and said so with no apparent fear of political consequences. (I walked around Caracas, day and night, openly stating my politics—no one, from the government nor the opposition, harassed me or was angered by me sharing my opinions.)

But while Maduro could hardly be called well-liked, Guaidó and the U.S.-dominated opposition are widely reviled and rejected. Very few Venezuelans want to go back to 1992, when the Army killed so many protestors, or to 1998, the year before Chavez was elected. Those who do are often members of the wealthy old order. Fittingly, one of the main opposition points is George Washington Plaza, a rich neighborhood sandwiched between the barrios of El Paraiso and La Vega.

https://newrepublic.com/article/153219/coup-unlikely-venezuela

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Why a Coup Is Unlikely in Venezuela (Original Post) MRubio Mar 2019 OP
What Mr. Silverstein underestimates, or perhaps doesn't even understand, is........ MRubio Mar 2019 #1
Wut? MRubio Mar 2019 #2
Silverstein has an agenda. His employer expects his writing to reflect their agenda GatoGordo Mar 2019 #3
I've found this BBC Mundo piece from 2016 useful Ghost Dog Mar 2019 #4
Reading some stuff today online GatoGordo Mar 2019 #5

MRubio

(285 posts)
1. What Mr. Silverstein underestimates, or perhaps doesn't even understand, is........
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:17 PM
Mar 2019

.......the tremendous hit Jowls Maduro and Diosdado Cabello (Godgiven Hair) both took yesterday with Guaido's uneventful return. Both had called for his arrest upon entering the country, with Cabello even mocking him on national TV by saying there'd be a reception committee of the Governor of Vargas State waiting for him at the airport.

As everyone now knows, Guaido breezed through immigration and headed strait to a rally in the city of Caracas which is about an hour's drive up into the mountains from the airport. That's the same highway where his car was stopped by SEBIN agents the day after he assumed the role of interim president. Of course, he was released within about 30 minutes of his kidnapping, with the regime claiming the act was on the part of "rouge" SEBIN agents. Yeah right. Now, more than 24 hours after re-entering the country, neither Maduro or Cabello have said a word. Silence. Crickets. The smell of weakness is in the air today. Both are being absolutely savaged on social media.

What most outsiders don't know about Venezuelan culture is the importance to the average Jose of who is in charge......of who is really calling the shots, of who holds the power, especially the power of the purse strings. Nowhere in the world have I traveled and lived has the phrase, "money talks and bullshit walks", apply more than here in Venezuela. The regime has never looked weaker than right now.

Up to this point, the military is still holding in support of Maduro. They've been bribed with money and power beyond their wildest dreams and do not want to give that up. Understandable. Eventually though, I believe the worm will turn and when it does, a trickle will turn into a flood.

If Mr. Silverstein is correct about anything, it's that military coup is indeed unlikely at this point. Thank God. I don't know how long it will take, but Maduro will ultimately fold & flee without a shot being fired by the opposition IMHO. Diosdado will be arrested and extradited to the US to face drug trafficking charges.

Then the cleanup of a wrecked economy begins.

MRubio

(285 posts)
2. Wut?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:29 PM
Mar 2019

"But while Maduro could hardly be called well-liked, Guaidó and the U.S.-dominated opposition are widely reviled and rejected."

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It's one thing for chavismo to bus in thousands of state workers from all over the country under threat of losing their jobs and benefits (aka food) if they fail to attend a regime rally, quite another to have thousands show up for an opposition rally when the threat of violence by colectivos and the national guard is always present.

I therefore call bullshit on Mr. Silverstein's comment above. Let me be clear, millions here still embrace Hugo Chavez as a saint and savior. Millions also will be elated when the fat man is history.

 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
3. Silverstein has an agenda. His employer expects his writing to reflect their agenda
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

and said agenda is not connected in any way to what is going on in Venezuela.

But like a good Marxist/Trotskyist/Leninist, his worldview always looks great. On paper.

 

GatoGordo

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5. Reading some stuff today online
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 10:30 AM
Mar 2019

and talking with Los Tios last night, it is a safe bet that there will not be any sort of US invasion. Which is a shame, because an invasion is what Maduro has been praying for. Though Chavismo won't go without at least ONE fight. There are too many in las cúpula who have too much to lose, especially in the FANB. I don't see how there won't be at least one or two firefights. But once it starts coming down, it will come down in a huge heap. And this is where Guaido will have to learn diplomacy in a hurry.

The squeeze is really on in Maracaibo and Maracay, according to the Uncles.

Fuel up your Falcon 8X, Delcy and Jorge... Havana calls you home!

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